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> - Mozilla should not let a few extremely rich executives loot the business. The problem is, when searching for high-level executives, you're not competing ag

> - Mozilla should not let a few extremely rich executives loot the business. The problem is, when searching for high-level executives, you're not competing against other NGOs, you're competing with the wide free market - and salaries there are, frankly, out of control and have been so for decades [1]. Either Mozilla Foundation plays the dirty game just like everyone else does, or they go out of business. It's the system that's broken at a fundamental level, not individual actors. [1] https://www.epi.org/publication/ceo-pay-in-2023/ https://www.epi.org/publication/ceo-pay-in-2023/

tetromino_ 1y ago
One might ask why Mozilla needs to search for a high-level executive in the first place. Most open source projects, even very large ones, function reasonably well without a hired executive - so what makes Mozilla different such that it requires this luxury good?
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- mschuster91 1y ago
  > Most open source projects, even very large ones, function reasonably well without a hired executive - so what makes Mozilla different such that it requires this luxury good? For a certain definition of "reasonably well", that is. And often enough, big money is at play, it's just hidden from the public eye - just look how much money IBM, RedHat, Google, Meta and other very large players spend on salaries for kernel and other OSS developers - and their managers in turn are paid the usual ridiculous executive salaries. That just doesn't show up on any public finance report.
- tiahura 1y ago
  Thank God for Linus.
danaris 1y ago
> or they go out of business. How does "failing to attract an executive whose primary differentiating characteristic is demanding exorbitant amounts of money" lead to them going out of business?
lovich 1y ago
The name for the effect you are describing is Baumol’s cost disease https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baumol_effect https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baumol_effect
Tostino 1y ago
Widen the hiring pool then. I'm sure there are plenty of competent people who do care deeply to keep an alternative browser in the market.
stalfosknight 1y ago
Maybe they should ditch the corposuits and let the engineers run the company à la Valve.

tetromino_ 1y ago

One might ask why Mozilla needs to search for a high-level executive in the first place. Most open source projects, even very large ones, function reasonably well without a hired executive - so what makes Mozilla different such that it requires this luxury good?

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mschuster91 1y ago
> Most open source projects, even very large ones, function reasonably well without a hired executive - so what makes Mozilla different such that it requires this luxury good? For a certain definition of "reasonably well", that is. And often enough, big money is at play, it's just hidden from the public eye - just look how much money IBM, RedHat, Google, Meta and other very large players spend on salaries for kernel and other OSS developers - and their managers in turn are paid the usual ridiculous executive salaries. That just doesn't show up on any public finance report.
tiahura 1y ago
Thank God for Linus.

danaris 1y ago

> or they go out of business. How does "failing to attract an executive whose primary differentiating characteristic is demanding exorbitant amounts of money" lead to them going out of business?

lovich 1y ago

The name for the effect you are describing is Baumol’s cost disease https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baumol_effect https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baumol_effect

Tostino 1y ago

Widen the hiring pool then. I'm sure there are plenty of competent people who do care deeply to keep an alternative browser in the market.

stalfosknight 1y ago

Maybe they should ditch the corposuits and let the engineers run the company à la Valve.