> Consistently taking away women rights, belittling them, ignoring their complaints, and making everyday life a needlessly complicated rat's nest of intricate n

> Consistently taking away women rights, belittling them, ignoring their complaints, and making everyday life a needlessly complicated rat's nest of intricate nonsense tends to kill any desire to procreate. This is totally detached from reality. Women in the West have more rights than elsewhere, but much lower fertility. Their fertility rates have halved over the last 50 years, even as we have reordered our societies entirely for their benefit. > It would be extreme narcissistic selfishness to have kids as a retirement plan, I can't imagine anyone in the real world thinking that way. Having kinds for economic reasons has been standard operating procedure for all of human history. Reality doesn't cease to be simply because you "can't imagine" it.