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The problem is not that you have more functionality in the app. It's that all the evil people that have designed (not implemented, the drones that write the cod

The problem is not that you have more functionality in the app. It's that all the evil people that have designed (not implemented, the drones that write the code rarely have the right to express opinion or provide common sense in big corporate) this idiocy require you to have online account with them, for reasons unknown. This functionality should be local. Bluetooth works fine.

thfuran 1y ago
That's certainly worse, but needing to use your phone to run the dishwasher is still bullshit.
- ReptileMan 1y ago
  So is being obligated to use remote control to operate your TV, but here we are. The only way out of this bind is to obligate manufacturers for different classes of appliances to comply with some standards about local functionality. Which I approve.
  - nilamo 1y ago
    But the TV comes with the remote. An appliance with an app doesn't even have the courtesy of a remote.
    - deleted 1y ago
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    - ethbr1 1y ago
      It's somewhat the same problem because its possible to lose manufacturer remotes. And if the TV decided to implement weird, non-standard control signals, it can be a pain to access certain functionality with universal remotes (e.g. settings). Different path to get there, but same end result: not being able to access functionality without going through an annoying manufacturer-specific route.
  - inemesitaffia 1y ago
    My TV has buttons and I can control it via my phone (universal remote inbuilt app)
- mikepurvis 1y ago
  How on earth does that work in an Airbnb? Or like, even my house guests? Do my parents and housekeeper and who knows who else all need to be set up with the Bosch app to be able to function in my kitchen?
  - mrweasel 1y ago
    It barely works if you're two adults in a home. Half of all the smart appliances can only be linked to one device. Sorry honey, I couldn't do the dishes or the laundry, the machines are linked to your Bosch account.
- toast0 1y ago
  I've got one of these Boschs, and it is bullshit ... but you "only" need the app to run some of the cycle types, so it's only a problem sometimes. The delicate cycle being app limited would be a problem if we used that more often.

thfuran 1y ago

That's certainly worse, but needing to use your phone to run the dishwasher is still bullshit.

ReptileMan 1y ago
So is being obligated to use remote control to operate your TV, but here we are. The only way out of this bind is to obligate manufacturers for different classes of appliances to comply with some standards about local functionality. Which I approve.
- nilamo 1y ago
  But the TV comes with the remote. An appliance with an app doesn't even have the courtesy of a remote.
  - deleted 1y ago
    [deleted]
  - ethbr1 1y ago
    It's somewhat the same problem because its possible to lose manufacturer remotes. And if the TV decided to implement weird, non-standard control signals, it can be a pain to access certain functionality with universal remotes (e.g. settings). Different path to get there, but same end result: not being able to access functionality without going through an annoying manufacturer-specific route.
- inemesitaffia 1y ago
  My TV has buttons and I can control it via my phone (universal remote inbuilt app)
mikepurvis 1y ago
How on earth does that work in an Airbnb? Or like, even my house guests? Do my parents and housekeeper and who knows who else all need to be set up with the Bosch app to be able to function in my kitchen?
- mrweasel 1y ago
  It barely works if you're two adults in a home. Half of all the smart appliances can only be linked to one device. Sorry honey, I couldn't do the dishes or the laundry, the machines are linked to your Bosch account.
toast0 1y ago
I've got one of these Boschs, and it is bullshit ... but you "only" need the app to run some of the cycle types, so it's only a problem sometimes. The delicate cycle being app limited would be a problem if we used that more often.