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It's also a shining example of American puritanism. Asian models or those in Europe are far less censored.
by selfmodruntime 1y ago
It's also a shining example of American puritanism. Asian models or those in Europe are far less censored.
- notarobot123 1y agoI'm sure this has more to do with legal liability than morals.
- plasticchris 1y agoWhich is a reflection of morality, of sorts.
- mystified5016 1y agoMorality and law are completely disjoint. On a Venn diagram, it's two circles separated by about a lightyear or so.
- Asraelite 1y agoWhat? They couldn't be more closely connected. In a democracy, laws are to a large extent a reflection of the wishes of the voters, and voters want what they believe is moral. It's true there's no casual relation in the other direction, if that's what you mean - law does not define morality.
- jowea 1y agoAt first I thought of advertisers, but that is not relevant here, right? But maybe it's not just legal liability but bad press too.
- reaperducer 1y ago[flagged]
- franzkappa 1y agoOf course, but it was perfect in America
- ryx 1y agoTo be more precise - the puritans fled from Europe to the New World because Europe became too modern and less conservative for them, starting with Martin Luther and the following Reformation and Age of Enlightenment. The social effects on the American society are heavily noticeable until today, but I leave this exercise to the reader.
- immibis 1y agoReally? What does DeepSeek say about Tiananmen Square? I'm not aware of any German models, but if you find one you should ask it what it thinks about Palestine. (<s>Qwen</s> Mistral is French, but I have no idea what stuff would be censored in France)
- dev_hugepages 1y agoI am 100 minus epsilon percent sure that Qwen is from Alibaba cloud, which is not French, but Chinese :)
- MisterTea 1y ago> but if you find one you should ask it what it thinks about Palestine. Models can think and have opinions?
- kube-system 1y agoNon sequitor. Phrasing queries in natural language doesn't mean people actually believe machines are human.
- MisterTea 1y ago> doesn't mean people actually believe machines are human. They don't have to believe it's a human. I know a person who admitted to arguing with an LLM.
- kube-system 1y agoWhich still does not demonstrate that they believe it has opinions. Natural language is how you interact with an LLM -- interactions will mimic human interaction, even for those who realize it is not sentient.
- MisterTea 1y agoThey were under the impression they could in fact change the AI's mind. So yes, they did believe it has an opinion. They believed it was sentient and able to think for itself. Do not underestimate peoples inability to distinguish between a very clever Markov chain and actual intelligence. The future is going to be ... interesting.
- jiehong 1y agoCensorship is not always direct or obvious. They all hold the bias of their training data, and so from the point of view of this data. Data not including a point of view leads to a bias, or under/over representation of minorities (genders?), etc. France is the countries of the Francs, aka the people from the area near Frankfurt that invaded the Gaule (after the Romans did). I'm pretty sure this topic no longer matters, but it's never taught in a negative view in school.
- mensetmanusman 1y agoThere is far more diversity in Asian models. Some are far more censored and some are not…
- TiredOfLife 1y agoThe whole unalive thing is a TikTok thing
- selfmodruntime 1y agoAnd it doesn‘t exist in the Chinese TikTok version.