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Regressives are playing a losing hand for one simple and obvious reason --- economics. EVs and renewable energy are unstoppable and will win simply because the
by jqpabc123 1y ago
Regressives are playing a losing hand for one simple and obvious reason --- economics.
EVs and renewable energy are unstoppable and will win simply because they are a less expensive alternative.
Until americans and american industry embrace this simple fact, we will be operating with an economic handicap and competitive disadvantage against the rest of the world and particularly the Chinese.
Government support and mandates for fossil fuel is a regressive step away from free trade and toward technical inferiority and decline --- not "greatness".
- vagrantJin 1y agoCan change just be advocated for something out of our own interest instead of using the "Chinese" boogeyman? Is that a possibility?
- jqpabc123 1y agoRead my post again --- economics is definitely in our own best interests. Paying more for energy negatively impacts everyone and every industry.
- hearsathought 1y ago> Read my post again --- economics is definitely in our own best interests. And yet you still snuck in "the chinese" in the your comment.
- jqpabc123 1y agoChina is a fairly large player in the global economy and renewable energy is it not?
- hearsathought 1y agoRemember what you replied to: "Can change just be advocated for something out of our own interest instead of using the "Chinese" boogeyman? Is that a possibility?" If you hadn't disingenuously replied to that comment by asking us to reread your comment, we wouldn't be having this conversation.
- Frieren 1y agoEcology and economy are the same thing. The only way it is misaligned is because quite often the environmental impact is an externality. E.g. A big oil corporation gets the profits of selling oil but the environmental price is paid by everybody else. Accounting the increase in climate disasters, oil becomes way more expensive that it is currently reflected in its price. So, when someone argues that "taking into account the environment is too expensive" they are really arguing that "I should not pay for the environment damage but society at large should be paying while I collect profits".
- pjmlp 1y agoIt doesn't look less expensive over here in Europe, and less so without government discounts. Hence why most people keep buying ICE, gas, or eventually hybrids.
- giingyui 1y agoI doubt it’s less expensive in America either. You read a lot of propaganda about this here which you shouldn’t trust.
- jqpabc123 1y agoYou're wrong and the proof is Texas --- a state that is literally overflowing with fossil fuel. https://businessintexas.com/blog/texas-leads-us-renewable-energy-growth/ https://businessintexas.com/blog/texas-leads-us-renewable-en... And here is the leading proponent of propaganda. https://checkyourfact.com/2019/04/09/fact-check-trump-wind-turbine-cancer/ https://checkyourfact.com/2019/04/09/fact-check-trump-wind-t...
- burnt-resistor 1y agoZillions of Swazicars/trucks and Ioniq's here in hill country. They're simply cheaper and cleaner than ICE vehicles.
- easyThrowaway 1y agoMy godfather was a safety engineer in an absolutely massive refining plant in the middle of the mediterranean. The amount of handwashing, grants, political appeasement and local populace straight-up subjugation required to keep the pretense that thing is an economic net positive rather than a polluting, cancer-causing, money wasting black hole is immense. I know I can't prove it, but I strongly believe that much of the "Big Oil" dominance is due to political pressure to bend the market forces rather than any kind of real economic advantages compared to renewable energy sources.