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Arguments like this are not very powerful. It seems like "abstinence is a birth control method" that said, more occurrences of this situation might make your

by m463 1y ago

Arguments like this are not very powerful. It seems like "abstinence is a birth control method" that said, more occurrences of this situation might make your argument more powerful over time.

pjerem 1y ago
That’s the American/capitalist thinking : the market should sort itself out against bad actors.
- wkat4242 1y ago
  Yeah and it doesn't work because the market isn't really free. Becoming a AAA game publisher requires so much money that has so many strings attached that there is no concept of a real free market. Personally I don't believe a real free market can exist anyway. There always has to be a balance between socialism and capitalism. All the big publishers are bound by these strings such as the wish for more recurring revenue. Hence the microtransactions and online models. You can't really avoid those.
  - pjerem 1y ago
    > Personally I don't believe a real free market can exist anyway. There always has to be a balance between socialism and capitalism. I 100% share this but I can’t understand how even the most capitalist (ideologically) person in the world would not want to create rules to at least avoid actors to become too big. Monopolies are a bug of the capitalism and they break it from the inside. When monopolies aren’t kept at bay, you aren’t even in capitalism anymore.
    - robertlagrant 1y ago
      > I 100% share this but I can’t understand how even the most capitalist (ideologically) person in the world would not want to create rules to at least avoid actors to become too big. This is definitely true. I don't know if this is true, but my instinct is that it's much harder to create a monopoly if you don't have a government willing to write rules to enforce your existing advantages.
robertlagrant 1y ago
> It seems like "abstinence is a birth control method" Only with very very poor pattern matching. If people don't buy something, there is a 0% chance it will exist. That's better than any birth control method you might recommend.
- wizzwizz4 1y ago
  You have correctly identified a flaw in the economic model you're using – although you missed the step where you look at the real world, and take note of the discrepancy. In the real world, things exist that are not bought.

by m463 1y ago

Arguments like this are not very powerful. It seems like "abstinence is a birth control method" that said, more occurrences of this situation might make your argument more powerful over time.

pjerem 1y ago

That’s the American/capitalist thinking : the market should sort itself out against bad actors.

wkat4242 1y ago
Yeah and it doesn't work because the market isn't really free. Becoming a AAA game publisher requires so much money that has so many strings attached that there is no concept of a real free market. Personally I don't believe a real free market can exist anyway. There always has to be a balance between socialism and capitalism. All the big publishers are bound by these strings such as the wish for more recurring revenue. Hence the microtransactions and online models. You can't really avoid those.
- pjerem 1y ago
  > Personally I don't believe a real free market can exist anyway. There always has to be a balance between socialism and capitalism. I 100% share this but I can’t understand how even the most capitalist (ideologically) person in the world would not want to create rules to at least avoid actors to become too big. Monopolies are a bug of the capitalism and they break it from the inside. When monopolies aren’t kept at bay, you aren’t even in capitalism anymore.
  - robertlagrant 1y ago
    > I 100% share this but I can’t understand how even the most capitalist (ideologically) person in the world would not want to create rules to at least avoid actors to become too big. This is definitely true. I don't know if this is true, but my instinct is that it's much harder to create a monopoly if you don't have a government willing to write rules to enforce your existing advantages.

robertlagrant 1y ago

> It seems like "abstinence is a birth control method" Only with very very poor pattern matching. If people don't buy something, there is a 0% chance it will exist. That's better than any birth control method you might recommend.

wizzwizz4 1y ago
You have correctly identified a flaw in the economic model you're using – although you missed the step where you look at the real world, and take note of the discrepancy. In the real world, things exist that are not bought.