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"Called back to the office" is such a weird turn of phrase, like you're cattle being called back to your pen. You people do realize that you have the power, rig

"Called back to the office" is such a weird turn of phrase, like you're cattle being called back to your pen. You people do realize that you have the power, right? They need you so they can make their crappy products. All you have to do is boycott working for tech companies until they let you work remote. We all saw remote work in the pandemic, how productive people became. We all know that return to office "for productivity" is a lie. They just want an excuse to pay for big offices, and an excuse for laying us off at a moment's notice. They will continue mistreating us until we stand up for our rights, together.

manjose2018 1y ago
There are enough people out of work right now (with bills to pay like mortgages, childcare, tuition, etc) that most potential candidates will be more than happy to work in the office for a paycheck.
- Simulacra 1y ago
  I just started seeing this on resumes. We got a letter from a person applying at our office last week who said she is available to work full time in the office. A couple of years ago, a lot of the people were applying for wanting to work from home.
- 0xbadcafebee 1y ago
  But that doesn't have to happen. If we have a union, and pay union dues, then people can get paid from the union fund during a strike. There'd be representatives advocating for us and the rights we want. We can affect policy to add pressure to prevent future layoffs and make remote work a right. Rather than what we do now, which is anything they want. We don't actually have to just sit back and allow ourselves to be constantly laid off, or threatened with being fired if we don't move to a specific city and commute every day. There are things we can do. But we have to get off our asses.
- mathiaspoint 1y ago
  Enough of this sort of thing and creative people who plan ahead will label working for you as something that's extremely disruptive and you'll only be able to higher people one step above an LLM.
AnimalMuppet 1y ago
> They just want an excuse to pay for big offices... Say what? They're just itching for an excuse to waste money for no reason? I have heard a number of people saying that, and I've never heard anything that sounds like a convincing reason why they should want that. Don't bother telling me about investments in commercial real estate. First, I've never seen any evidence that the people making these decisions have any such investments. It seems to be a "just so" story rather than anything with any substance behind it. Second, even if they had such investments, the first one who defects wins, and everyone can see that. They should be dumping such investments and then dumping their office buildings. > ... and an excuse for laying us off at a moment's notice. WFH does not in any way protect you from being laid off at a moment's notice. You may be saying that demanding return to office gives them an excuse to lay off everyone who won't comply. That may be true. But they don't actually need that excuse. They can lay you off anyway.

manjose2018 1y ago

There are enough people out of work right now (with bills to pay like mortgages, childcare, tuition, etc) that most potential candidates will be more than happy to work in the office for a paycheck.

Simulacra 1y ago
I just started seeing this on resumes. We got a letter from a person applying at our office last week who said she is available to work full time in the office. A couple of years ago, a lot of the people were applying for wanting to work from home.
0xbadcafebee 1y ago
But that doesn't have to happen. If we have a union, and pay union dues, then people can get paid from the union fund during a strike. There'd be representatives advocating for us and the rights we want. We can affect policy to add pressure to prevent future layoffs and make remote work a right. Rather than what we do now, which is anything they want. We don't actually have to just sit back and allow ourselves to be constantly laid off, or threatened with being fired if we don't move to a specific city and commute every day. There are things we can do. But we have to get off our asses.
mathiaspoint 1y ago
Enough of this sort of thing and creative people who plan ahead will label working for you as something that's extremely disruptive and you'll only be able to higher people one step above an LLM.

AnimalMuppet 1y ago

> They just want an excuse to pay for big offices... Say what? They're just itching for an excuse to waste money for no reason? I have heard a number of people saying that, and I've never heard anything that sounds like a convincing reason why they should want that. Don't bother telling me about investments in commercial real estate. First, I've never seen any evidence that the people making these decisions have any such investments. It seems to be a "just so" story rather than anything with any substance behind it. Second, even if they had such investments, the first one who defects wins, and everyone can see that. They should be dumping such investments and then dumping their office buildings. > ... and an excuse for laying us off at a moment's notice. WFH does not in any way protect you from being laid off at a moment's notice. You may be saying that demanding return to office gives them an excuse to lay off everyone who won't comply. That may be true. But they don't actually need that excuse. They can lay you off anyway.