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Nope. In my opinion Wild West in software is much preferred model. If one wants to create software and sell it there should be no barriers. It is one of the the
by FpUser 1y ago
Nope. In my opinion Wild West in software is much preferred model. If one wants to create software and sell it there should be no barriers. It is one of the the very few fields that give chance to simple people with no money to break out and live decent life.
- joquarky 1y agoJust make sure to save up before ageism kicks in.
- throw234234234 1y agoTbh I think it depends on the domain you are coding for. The field is so diverse across many different parts of the economy. E-Commerce web app sure go for your life -> software for controlling some life support system... yeah maybe I want someone with qualifications and audited standards thanks.
- FpUser 1y ago>"software for controlling some life support system..." I believe there are processes to ensure this kind of software is safe (obviously to a degree).
- throw234234234 1y agoSure. But audits/processes only catch up to a point. In the end the buck stops with a professional. That's what most "professions" are. They aren't just a service -> they are an accreditation with some recourse which gives them prestige/social status/etc if they have years of experience (i.e. despite the risk imposed on them as a professional they have survived/thrived).
- FpUser 1y ago>"In the end the buck stops with a professional." Where did you get the idea that "professionals" do not fuck up. They do it just as much as mere mortals.
- throw234234234 1y ago[dead]
- SketchySeaBeast 1y agoLife support and controls system should absolutely have a high standard, but even E-Commerce should have a decent bar. If you're handling my money I expect you to be an adult.
- FpUser 1y agoI develop software for various areas. The ones that come anywhere close to regulated areas surely gets audited.
- no_wizard 1y agoIts not common that people in our industry don't have bachelor degrees anymore. Its also not an industry where I routinely find the majority of people come from lower economic backgrounds etc. I think a fair compromise would be not to require specific degrees to test, but rather a service fee (which could be sponsored) but I think a similar rigorous standards based exam would do wonders for our industry, even if it trims who can enter it on the margins
- kfajdsl 1y agoWhat would be on such an exam? Pseudocode, logic puzzles? Certainly not specifics on any particular technology, right?
- no_wizard 1y agothose generic screener questions aren't technology specific. Data structures, algorithms, system design (the top 3 that show up in interviews), none of which are technology specific. Throw in best practices like TDD, code security, and architectural patterns and I think you could hit all of the most common non technology specific domains that cover it
- FpUser 1y ago>"Its not common that people in our industry don't have bachelor degrees anymore. Its also not an industry where I routinely find the majority of people come from lower economic backgrounds etc." It does not matter what you "routinely find". Live and let live. Person has an inherent right to make living however they see fit unless it actively harms others. If you are so concerned about degrees why not to start with the one of a "decent human" and require it from politicians. Those fuckers affect us way more than any software and and mostly walk free no matter haw badly they fuck someone's life
- no_wizard 1y agobecause our industry would improve massively if we actually removed a barrier to allowing standardized licensure I also never said it should be held behind a degree, instead I said a fee, which could be sponsored. No degree required, though one certainly would help I imagine. We live in a society, and we should think beyond the individual in terms of benefits. This would be a big win for society.