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I have a suspicion this has been happening with a particular MAG7 stock these last few months, but I can't fully convince myself such a large stock can be manip

by ivape 1y ago

I have a suspicion this has been happening with a particular MAG7 stock these last few months, but I can't fully convince myself such a large stock can be manipulated like that.

pclmulqdq 1y ago
At least one of those stocks tends to have a comparatively thin order book.
- artemisyna 1y ago
  Oh?
- throwaway2037 1y ago
  Google tells me: > Coined in 2023, the group consists of Alphabet, Amazon, Apple, Meta Platforms, Microsoft, Nvidia, and Tesla. Which one?
  - pclmulqdq 1y ago
    Tesla
    - bdangubic 1y ago
      except Tesla is not just car company but a taxi company and energy company and AI company and robotics company… 6-7 more decades and orders will be pouring in :)
      - mrweasel 1y ago
        Tesla is also Musk. The Tesla stock is currently tied closer to the shenanigans of it's CEO than it is to the fundamentals underlying the company.
    - bwfan123 1y ago
      Any stock with large retail options trading volume is ripe for shenanigans, and I can bet tsla is one of them.
georgemcbay 1y ago
> but I can't fully convince myself such a large stock can be manipulated like that. I have the same initial reluctance to believe it that you do, but less so when I remind myself that we live in a world where the Social Security Administration sent out a mass email praising the passing of the "big beautiful bill". I think our built-up understanding of how the US government functions at a baseline has not caught up to recent events. Especially in regards to how much regulatory bodies are doing their traditional jobs vs being forced to sit on their hands, or in some cases just not even existing anymore.
- jeromegv 1y ago
  Someone gets it. If you keep cutting budget of people trying to make sure the rules are followed, what do you think is going to happen?
- riffraff 1y ago
  As someone living in a country with very weakened democracy, getting emails from the government was the point I realized things were really messed up. If this is now happening in the USA, well, good luck.
  - georgemcbay 1y ago
    Thanks, we're gonna need it (the luck, that is). We got email from a government agency that is weakened by the passage of a new law celebrating the passage of said law, so yeah that's not looking great.
- Shypangz 1y ago
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  - southernplaces7 1y ago
    Sorry for asking but curious, how did mails.AI help you track stock movements? Isn't it just an email marketing assistant service?
reedf1 1y ago
Of course large stocks can be manipulated like this. But there is also normal oscillation, repeatable human psychological behavior (e.g. momentum, mean reversion), and just crowd murmuration. Be careful using your eyes to gleam patterns from graphs; you may find if you try to monetize these they vanish before you.

by ivape 1y ago

I have a suspicion this has been happening with a particular MAG7 stock these last few months, but I can't fully convince myself such a large stock can be manipulated like that.

pclmulqdq 1y ago

At least one of those stocks tends to have a comparatively thin order book.

artemisyna 1y ago
Oh?
throwaway2037 1y ago
Google tells me: > Coined in 2023, the group consists of Alphabet, Amazon, Apple, Meta Platforms, Microsoft, Nvidia, and Tesla. Which one?
- pclmulqdq 1y ago
  Tesla
  - bdangubic 1y ago
    except Tesla is not just car company but a taxi company and energy company and AI company and robotics company… 6-7 more decades and orders will be pouring in :)
    - mrweasel 1y ago
      Tesla is also Musk. The Tesla stock is currently tied closer to the shenanigans of it's CEO than it is to the fundamentals underlying the company.
  - bwfan123 1y ago
    Any stock with large retail options trading volume is ripe for shenanigans, and I can bet tsla is one of them.

georgemcbay 1y ago

> but I can't fully convince myself such a large stock can be manipulated like that. I have the same initial reluctance to believe it that you do, but less so when I remind myself that we live in a world where the Social Security Administration sent out a mass email praising the passing of the "big beautiful bill". I think our built-up understanding of how the US government functions at a baseline has not caught up to recent events. Especially in regards to how much regulatory bodies are doing their traditional jobs vs being forced to sit on their hands, or in some cases just not even existing anymore.

jeromegv 1y ago
Someone gets it. If you keep cutting budget of people trying to make sure the rules are followed, what do you think is going to happen?
riffraff 1y ago
As someone living in a country with very weakened democracy, getting emails from the government was the point I realized things were really messed up. If this is now happening in the USA, well, good luck.
- georgemcbay 1y ago
  Thanks, we're gonna need it (the luck, that is). We got email from a government agency that is weakened by the passage of a new law celebrating the passage of said law, so yeah that's not looking great.
Shypangz 1y ago
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- southernplaces7 1y ago
  Sorry for asking but curious, how did mails.AI help you track stock movements? Isn't it just an email marketing assistant service?

reedf1 1y ago

Of course large stocks can be manipulated like this. But there is also normal oscillation, repeatable human psychological behavior (e.g. momentum, mean reversion), and just crowd murmuration. Be careful using your eyes to gleam patterns from graphs; you may find if you try to monetize these they vanish before you.