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>Most people in my life I imagine I could kill with my bare hands. But I don’t, because like you said that isn’t how life works. You don't, not because you are

>Most people in my life I imagine I could kill with my bare hands. But I don’t, because like you said that isn’t how life works. You don't, not because you are such a great guy, but because society's protection of physical systems is rigorous through thousands (millions?) of years of evolution. If you assault someone in the modern day, you will probably get thrown in jail or you will get shot. Our information systems (such as the internet) are systemically weak. They are poorly designed and have not gone through the same evolution. I think it is good to exploit these weak information systems so that they can evolve.

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Are you saying that the guy would go for a killing spree because he can, but he's only stopped by the laws? Weird. And polar opposite from what he said.
- beeflet 1y ago
  If there were no laws, then there would be no evolutionary pressure to pacify the ghenghis khans of the world. And it's not so much the rules on paper, but the organization of power that enforces the rules. It's not weird it's just uncomfortable for you to grapple with directly, that discomfort being a product of the same evolutionary pressure. What I'm saying doesn't oppose what they're saying. That poster was just boasting about his ability to kill others, re-framed in a way to suit slave morality and make himself look like a "good" person.
  - IIsi50MHz 1y ago
    Laws are not the only existing influences. Even if you mean to include other social constructs, those are still not the only extant influences. Based on my understanding, Genghis Khan was himself a lawful force…just not the same laws as other groups. I believe this followed the usual pattern of human history: in-group gets favourable laws, while out-groups get their own laws ignored whilst unfavourable laws are pressed upon them. Perhaps you meant the natural human capacity for violence? If so, it is a non-sequitur to suggest that only laws provide an evolutionary pressure against this.
throw353457 1y ago
No, the vast majority of people don't kill others because they are good people and they don't want to murder others. The laws are put in place for the small minority that are not good people. It's good to know that modern laws are a deterrent for you.

subscribed 1y ago

Are you saying that the guy would go for a killing spree because he can, but he's only stopped by the laws? Weird. And polar opposite from what he said.

beeflet 1y ago
If there were no laws, then there would be no evolutionary pressure to pacify the ghenghis khans of the world. And it's not so much the rules on paper, but the organization of power that enforces the rules. It's not weird it's just uncomfortable for you to grapple with directly, that discomfort being a product of the same evolutionary pressure. What I'm saying doesn't oppose what they're saying. That poster was just boasting about his ability to kill others, re-framed in a way to suit slave morality and make himself look like a "good" person.
- IIsi50MHz 1y ago
  Laws are not the only existing influences. Even if you mean to include other social constructs, those are still not the only extant influences. Based on my understanding, Genghis Khan was himself a lawful force…just not the same laws as other groups. I believe this followed the usual pattern of human history: in-group gets favourable laws, while out-groups get their own laws ignored whilst unfavourable laws are pressed upon them. Perhaps you meant the natural human capacity for violence? If so, it is a non-sequitur to suggest that only laws provide an evolutionary pressure against this.

throw353457 1y ago

No, the vast majority of people don't kill others because they are good people and they don't want to murder others. The laws are put in place for the small minority that are not good people. It's good to know that modern laws are a deterrent for you.