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Does a country failed education system has anything to do with AGI?
by yeasku 1y ago
Does a country failed education system has anything to do with AGI?
- mopenstein 1y agoWhat percentage of those people could never read above a certain grade level? Could 100% of humans eventually, with infinite resources and time, all be geniuses? Could they read and comprehend all the works produced by mankind? I'm curious.
- kranke155 1y agoNo but they could probably read better. Just look at the best education systems in the world and propagate that. Generally, all countries should be able to replicate that.
- ch4s3 1y agoThe stat is skewed wildly by immigration. The literacy level of native born Americans is higher. The population of foreign born adults is nearly 20% of the total adult population, and as you can imagine many are actively learning English.
- Herring 1y agoIt’s not skewed much by immigration. This is because the native-born population is much larger. See: https://www.migrationpolicy.org/sites/default/files/publications/PIAAC-Immigrant-Adult-Profile.pdf https://www.migrationpolicy.org/sites/default/files/publicat... 51% of native-born adults scored at Level 3 or higher. This is considered the benchmark for being able to manage complex tasks and fully participate in a knowledge-based society. Only 28% of immigrant adults achieved this level. So yes immigrants are in trouble, but it’s still a huge problem with 49% native-born below Level 3.
- refurb 1y agoIn my mind “literate” is not “hand complex tasks”, it’s a basic ability to read and write. Seems like the standards have changed over time?
- robertritz 1y agoConsidering the amount of digitalization in society, more government regulations, etc. I think basic literacy alone does not guarantee you can participate in society effectively.
- refurb 1y agoBut in the past, literacy was typically defined as "bare minimum". It's fine if we want to change it to "sufficiently master language to do a white collar job", but if the standard changes we shouldn't be surprised fewer people meet it.
- Herring 1y agoWell the topic of conversation was AGI. I have a stem phd and I like to think I’m a strong reader, but Gemini pro can analyze/distill pages of text at least as well as I can, and much much faster. It only seems to fail when it doesn’t have relevant data/context.
- dankwizard 1y agoThe immigration is actually working to boost literacy levels. Americans have been falling off for a long time.
- Davidzheng 1y agoYes if you measure AGI against median human.
- yeasku 1y agoWhy do you think a US citizen represents the median human? Let me guess, you are from USA.
- Davidzheng 1y agoI'm not.
- yeasku 1y agoThen why should we use Americans as the average human?
- decimalenough 1y agoThe US citizen is probably well above the median human. There are many countries where the education system is abysmal, many people are stunted because of inadequate nutrition, etc.
- yeasku 1y agoIf it is well above it also not a good average human. What is your point?
- decimalenough 1y agoThat in raw IQ terms LLMs already beat the median human, American or otherwise, and have thus achieved some definitions of "AGI". That doesn't mean they're capable of completing many human tasks, much less improving themselves, which is generally considered the bar for "real" AGI/super intelligence.