I know this American life is good and when I listen to it I almost always think it was worthwhile. However... his voice. It's just so hard for me to listen to h

I know this American life is good and when I listen to it I almost always think it was worthwhile. However... his voice. It's just so hard for me to listen to him for some reason. Same thing with Hidden Brain. Impactful episodes that can change your life but the guy's voice puts you to sleep so it's like taking an upper and a downer at the same time.