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Video games publishers don't want you to play the same game for too long without spending more money. They don't want to make games like Terraria where you have
by calibas 1y ago
Video games publishers don't want you to play the same game for too long without spending more money. They don't want to make games like Terraria where you have a $10 game you can play for a thousand hours. They'd much rather you buy multiple $60+ games, plus expansions, "micro"-transactions and subscriptions.
They don't want games that last forever, they want to pressure you into constantly buying the next big thing.
- mystraline 1y ago[flagged]
- DrillShopper 1y agoBG3 is quite possibly one of the most modable games of the last five years, and the multiplayer game is self hosted (peer to peer)
- doctorpangloss 1y agoI’m not sure why you’re being downvoted. There is a lot of confusion about this, almost certainly from people who have never played the game.
- artemonster 1y agoKnowling Larian I dont think that will be the case. what are you basing your assumptions upon? there is already extensive modding for bg3
- PoshBreeze 1y agoLarian are no longer involved with development of BG3: https://www.ign.com/articles/wizards-of-the-coast-not-to-blame-for-larian-leaving-baldurs-gate-3-and-dd-behind-swen-vincke-insists https://www.ign.com/articles/wizards-of-the-coast-not-to-bla... EDIT: Updated Link. It seems they've added free patches and won't be working on BG4.
- shkkmo 1y agoThat announcement is about BG4 not BG3.
- PoshBreeze 1y agoI've update the link. It seems they've released a bunch of free content instead in recent patches, which contradicts what they previously said somewhat.
- DrillShopper 1y agoYour article doesn't say "Larian are no longer involved with development of BG3". It in fact says they're still developing it, but won't be making BG4. The official Larian BG3 Discord server is promoting a mod competition, and they're still adding content, bug fixes, and new features to the game as well.
- PoshBreeze 1y agoI've updated the Link with the right one. https://baldursgate3.game/news/the-final-patch-new-subclasses-photo-mode-and-cross-play_138 https://baldursgate3.game/news/the-final-patch-new-subclasse... So it looks like they've released free content update and after this is is going to be hot fixes?
- mystraline 1y agoShow me the local server executable.
- thunderfork 1y agoIt's peer to peer, isn't it? Afaik you can play it on a LAN with no Internet connection
- aeonik 1y agoYes it is, I use a VPN to play on LAN mode with my family all the time from across the country.
- ben-schaaf 1y agoIt's called bg3_dx11.exe. BG3 doesn't have dedicated servers, one player hosts and the others connect to them. It (obviously) works on LAN, no internet connection required.
- spacemadness 1y agoBy playable do you just mean new content? It will be perfectly playable in 10 years just like all the other classic CRPGs. It would be amazing if modding in content was easy like NWN, if that’s what you mean, because it obviously isn’t. It does seem like such a waste. I’m in a second replay and it’s enjoyable but just so long and will become more repetitive. There are certain sections in Act I that I can’t see myself enjoying a third time at all. Some smaller modules would be amazing. I think the closest thing to that will be Solasta II in the modern era.
- nickthegreek 1y agoMy understanding is that WOTC wouldn’t extend their d&d license to be used in bg3 with that full set of modding that you want.
- 63stack 1y agoBG3 has extensive modding support to the point where people released mods that turn it from a "classical" rpg to a roguelike. BG3 has public lobbies, private lobbies, and *all* games are hosted locally on the hoster's computer, can be played through LAN without internet. It also has split screen coop. Nothing you said about BG3 has an ounce of truth to it, and it is one of the most consumer friendly games in a sea of anticonsumer garbage. Are you trying to discredit Larian for some reason?
- chickenzzzzu 1y agoThis is literally every industry now. Shall we "regulate" all industries to be like this, then? Is that achievable? Shall we require Netflix to release server builds so that you can access their content indefinitely because you paid for a subscription at some point? "That's not what this is about. Ok, where are we heading then?
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- danlitt 1y agoI mean, what you describe sounds pretty good. It sounds like you think it's not feasible for some reason (other than political will). Do you want to elaborate on that?
- chickenzzzzu 1y agoIt certainly is feasible. Requiring it to happen though, would result in some interesting economic dynamics, I believe. We currently exist in a two tier global economy where some countries are required to follow a strict set of laws, and others basically make their own. To be clear, I am saying that Russia and China do not care at all about piracy and IP theft and so on. As you increase the rules that Western companies must follow, you run the risk that some day your only options will be non-Western companies, and that may or may not be a good thing. This is what has happened with manufacturing, and it was good for a while until it wasn't. It still is quite good in some pockets though, like batteries and solar.
- traverseda 1y agoPaying for a subscription is explicitly not what this is about. No one is suggesting this for MMOs. Just that it be clear that it is a subscription, that you're not actually buying the game. What a one-time fee for an MMO? Give it an expiry date. You can keep pushing the expiry date, but you have to promise support up to at least that date.
- AndrewPGameDev 1y ago
- conductr 1y agoThis would be why they’re trying to create consumer protection laws
- vinkelhake 1y agoThat kind of reasoning makes sense if you have a single publisher controlling the entire market and they don't want to undercut their own business. But that's obviously not the case. There are plenty of publishers that want to publish games like Terraria, especially if they go on to sell more than 60 million copies.
- calibas 1y agoI think the market is actually much more segmented than your comment implies. There's publishers who absolutely dominate certain niches, especially sporting games, and the only realistic competition they have are themselves.
- LightHugger 1y agoIt's worth keeping in mind that the "market" for a particular player can actually be incredibly small depending on their interests. In the most extreme example, a player might be a fan specifically of a single IP or series of games. Call of duty is one good example because there really are a lot of people who are like this. Video game IPs are a government granted monopoly on a small scale, and the word monopoly is not there for no reason, there is only one place to get CoD if you are a fan of CoD. Predictably, these companies follow the OA's suggested strategy very closely!
- doctorpangloss 1y agoI’m not sure “sellers would love to raise prices and have people keep buying” is the indictment that you think it is. Terraria and Modern Warfare, which is monetized the way you describe, are such different products…
- lofaszvanitt 1y agoWhy would you want to spend 1000s of hours in a game? That must be eradicated with fire. Time is your most precious resource... why waste it on one game? Games need to be shorter, maybe 20 hrs or so for high budget single player games.
- justinrubek 1y agoI detest this line of thinking. There are plenty of games that are playable for this length of time. I've played hundreds of hours of Factorio, and I am not even close to exhausting the experience. Terraria was a fine example, too.
- lofaszvanitt 1y agoIt's time to learn how to let go of something that is akin to an addictive substance. I also spent countless hours playing MMOs. While I have fond memories of them, I was relieved when I managed to stop playing these exploitative games. I agree that single player games and the day zero patch shenanigans must go in order to preserve them. But otherwise, I'm glad that after long years most of these games cannot be injected into your bloodstream anymore.
- lawlessone 1y agoSome people enjoy things you don't , calm down.
- lofaszvanitt 1y agoI'm calm. All I'm saying is that 5-10 years of exposure to a game is more than enough.
- efilife 1y agoYou don't get to decide this
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- flykespice 1y agoPlanned obsolescence even has affected video games too?