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The last part is so true. I’m a big guy, 6’3’’ 260, multiple Ironman, sport, climbing, lifting and hunting brush with a bit of combat training over the years.
by Drunkfoowl 1y ago
The last part is so true.
I’m a big guy, 6’3’’ 260, multiple Ironman, sport, climbing, lifting and hunting brush with a bit of combat training over the years. Most people in my life I imagine I could kill with my bare hands. But I don’t, because like you said that isn’t how life works.
Yet people apply it to anything they want recklessly. Cars, phones, or like above peoples projects. I wonder how they would feel if I beat the shit out of them and laughed, telling them their mom should have fucked someone bigger.
Anyway, I agree it sucks.
- ProllyInfamous 1y agoI'm about your size, and have actually done what you describe (not by my own choice). The process takes much longer than one might suppose, however incredibly difficult to imagine. We are nothing more than temporary meatbags, fragilely broken. Take care of yourself, each other. ¢¢
- flkenosad 1y agoYou killed someone with your bare hands but it wasn't your choice? Sorry I'm lost.
- margalabargala 1y agoSometimes, other people can decide to put you in a situation where among all possible actions, physically stopping that person by any means is the least bad option by several orders of magnitude. People refer to this as having "no choice", assuming most people understand "standing there and watching them repeatedly stab my infant with a fork" is not a choice anyone would make. It's an idiom.
- ProllyInfamous 1y ago>It's an idiom Thank you. Thank you for using your brain.
- ProllyInfamous 1y agoI've intentionally left details vague — legally: a free man. Tip: bare-handed, watch out for teeth — the will to live is strong.
- beeflet 1y ago>Most people in my life I imagine I could kill with my bare hands. But I don’t, because like you said that isn’t how life works. You don't, not because you are such a great guy, but because society's protection of physical systems is rigorous through thousands (millions?) of years of evolution. If you assault someone in the modern day, you will probably get thrown in jail or you will get shot. Our information systems (such as the internet) are systemically weak. They are poorly designed and have not gone through the same evolution. I think it is good to exploit these weak information systems so that they can evolve.
- subscribed 1y agoAre you saying that the guy would go for a killing spree because he can, but he's only stopped by the laws? Weird. And polar opposite from what he said.
- beeflet 1y agoIf there were no laws, then there would be no evolutionary pressure to pacify the ghenghis khans of the world. And it's not so much the rules on paper, but the organization of power that enforces the rules. It's not weird it's just uncomfortable for you to grapple with directly, that discomfort being a product of the same evolutionary pressure. What I'm saying doesn't oppose what they're saying. That poster was just boasting about his ability to kill others, re-framed in a way to suit slave morality and make himself look like a "good" person.
- IIsi50MHz 1y agoLaws are not the only existing influences. Even if you mean to include other social constructs, those are still not the only extant influences. Based on my understanding, Genghis Khan was himself a lawful force…just not the same laws as other groups. I believe this followed the usual pattern of human history: in-group gets favourable laws, while out-groups get their own laws ignored whilst unfavourable laws are pressed upon them. Perhaps you meant the natural human capacity for violence? If so, it is a non-sequitur to suggest that only laws provide an evolutionary pressure against this.