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Everything except for steam, one of the few to do it right. Of course they arent perfect as nobody is, but in general they treat developers right, they treat cu

by aydyn 1y ago

Everything except for steam, one of the few to do it right. Of course they arent perfect as nobody is, but in general they treat developers right, they treat customers right. Theres no personalized surge prices or other AI BS, and they dont ban randomly like google. If you buy a game on steam, you own it for real.

mindwok 1y ago
True, Steam is better - I think it helps they aren't a public company. They still take a huge margin though.
immibis 1y ago
No, Steam is still in its (unusually long) first phase of enshittification, where it delivers surplus value to consumers. Probably as long as gaben is alive, it will be so. But don't expect it to last. There's nothing special about Steam the platform. You definitely don't own Steam games for real, and they don't ban randomly but for example, if you're caught cheating in a game, or talking about illegal things with your friends, you will find out how much you don't own those games.
- aydyn 1y ago
  If you cheat in a game, you'll get VAC banned but still retain access offline.
alextingle 1y ago
> If you buy a game on steam, you own it for real. How so? If Steam goes away, then so does your game. That's not ownership. Just because they have carefully and honestly fostered a lot of trust in their game rental service, doesn't make it not a game rental service.
- aydyn 1y ago
  If Steam itself goes bankrupt, Gabe himself said you'll still retain access to your games.1 Yes its a non-legally binding promise, but Steam has earned that trust. Also Steam isn't going away, so for these reasons that is "how so". 1. https://web.archive.org/web/20100605062932/http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showpost.php?p=10642189&postcount=28 https://web.archive.org/web/20100605062932/http://forums.ste...
  - greyface- 1y ago
    If Steam itself goes bankrupt, that decision is not up to Steam, it's up to its creditors and the bankruptcy court. It's not a credible promise for any US corporation to make, regardless of its trustworthiness.
  - account42 1y ago
    Ah cool, so an alleged promise made to one user makes it all OK and we should stop worrying and just buy more. Even if Gaben "money drives the community" Newell did make that promise and was sincere, he's going to be gone in a couple of decades at most and likely not in control of Valve before that.
account42 1y ago
Steam doesn't do it right, they are just slightly friendlier than the competition. And that can change at a moments notice and you will be locked in because your friend Gaben has been working on making it hard to leave all along.

by aydyn 1y ago

mindwok 1y ago

True, Steam is better - I think it helps they aren't a public company. They still take a huge margin though.

immibis 1y ago

No, Steam is still in its (unusually long) first phase of enshittification, where it delivers surplus value to consumers. Probably as long as gaben is alive, it will be so. But don't expect it to last. There's nothing special about Steam the platform. You definitely don't own Steam games for real, and they don't ban randomly but for example, if you're caught cheating in a game, or talking about illegal things with your friends, you will find out how much you don't own those games.

aydyn 1y ago
If you cheat in a game, you'll get VAC banned but still retain access offline.

alextingle 1y ago

> If you buy a game on steam, you own it for real. How so? If Steam goes away, then so does your game. That's not ownership. Just because they have carefully and honestly fostered a lot of trust in their game rental service, doesn't make it not a game rental service.

aydyn 1y ago
If Steam itself goes bankrupt, Gabe himself said you'll still retain access to your games.1 Yes its a non-legally binding promise, but Steam has earned that trust. Also Steam isn't going away, so for these reasons that is "how so". 1. https://web.archive.org/web/20100605062932/http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showpost.php?p=10642189&postcount=28 https://web.archive.org/web/20100605062932/http://forums.ste...
- greyface- 1y ago
  If Steam itself goes bankrupt, that decision is not up to Steam, it's up to its creditors and the bankruptcy court. It's not a credible promise for any US corporation to make, regardless of its trustworthiness.
- account42 1y ago
  Ah cool, so an alleged promise made to one user makes it all OK and we should stop worrying and just buy more. Even if Gaben "money drives the community" Newell did make that promise and was sincere, he's going to be gone in a couple of decades at most and likely not in control of Valve before that.

account42 1y ago

Steam doesn't do it right, they are just slightly friendlier than the competition. And that can change at a moments notice and you will be locked in because your friend Gaben has been working on making it hard to leave all along.