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We already have legal meth, it's branded Adderall® and we regularly prescribe it to children, grad students, and hedge fund managers. You just have to be rich e

We already have legal meth, it's branded Adderall® and we regularly prescribe it to children, grad students, and hedge fund managers. You just have to be rich enough to afford the 'scrip.

tayo42 1y ago
The brand name is Desoxyn for meth
blincoln 1y ago
Adderall is an amphetamine, but it is not methamphetamine. It would be closer to accurate to compare it to Dexedrine than meth.
- nandomrumber 1y ago
  Isn't Dexedrine just slow release dextroamphetamine? There isn't really a whole lot of difference between amphetamine and methamphetamine. Meth is, weight for weight, stronger due to the methyl- group enabling the molecule to pass through cell membranes / the blood-brain barrier easier, and at the effect-equivalent dose most people wouldn't notice any difference.
  - scns 1y ago
    Adderall is a mixture of 75% Dextroamphetamine and 25% Levoamphetamine.
lupusreal 1y ago
I do think Adderall should be available OTC to everybody. It's an open secret that rich kids with no legitimate mental issues buy prescriptions for adderall to boost their school and job performance. The popular talk of "ADHD brains" for which Adderall works differently is pseudoscience tacitly endorsed by the medical community to make people feel okay about using these drugs. They don't just boost the school performance of people who have ADHD, they do that for everybody. It's a relatively harmless drug in the vein of caffeine, almost everybody would benifit from using it, not just the people with diagnosed attention disorders. Broad legalization would level the playing field. Meth is different, even though it's basically the same if you look at it reductively. Meth hits you fast, it's not slow release. It gives you mind melting sex and gives you psychosis if you use it a lot. In a world where Adderall is easily and legally accessible to everybody, meth will remain desirable and ruinous.
- kjkjadksj 1y ago
  I wouldn’t say it is relatively harmless like caffeine. You hardly notice an effect from caffeine. You take adderall you are noticeably stimming on the other hand. You feel quite high and it is in no way subtle.
  - lupusreal 1y ago
    Caffeine isn't an amphetamine so there are differences, but caffeine hardly having a noticeable effect isn't one of them. Dose is everything. If you stick to coffee or cola that limits you, but pick up a bottle of OTC caffeine pills and you can really start to get wired and hurt yourself.
    - kjkjadksj 1y ago
      You get nausea before anything. I’ve done 10 cups before in one sitting in college. Just makes the stomach hurt. Very little action in the head other than a growing headache. Completely different than adderall which gives a very noticeable high.
- LorenPechtel 1y ago
  Disagree--it's not that it works differently, but whether the effect is desirable. There's always a balance between focusing on the task and dealing with the world. Adderall always turns up the focus. It's just that's a beneficial effect for those who didn't have enough focus, often an undesirable effect for those who already had enough. Saying it works differently on ADHD brains is like saying the furnace works differently on winter weather than on summer weather.
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We already have legal meth, it's branded Adderall® and we regularly prescribe it to children, grad students, and hedge fund managers. You just have to be rich enough to afford the 'scrip.

tayo42 1y ago

The brand name is Desoxyn for meth

blincoln 1y ago

Adderall is an amphetamine, but it is not methamphetamine. It would be closer to accurate to compare it to Dexedrine than meth.

nandomrumber 1y ago
Isn't Dexedrine just slow release dextroamphetamine? There isn't really a whole lot of difference between amphetamine and methamphetamine. Meth is, weight for weight, stronger due to the methyl- group enabling the molecule to pass through cell membranes / the blood-brain barrier easier, and at the effect-equivalent dose most people wouldn't notice any difference.
- scns 1y ago
  Adderall is a mixture of 75% Dextroamphetamine and 25% Levoamphetamine.

lupusreal 1y ago

I do think Adderall should be available OTC to everybody. It's an open secret that rich kids with no legitimate mental issues buy prescriptions for adderall to boost their school and job performance. The popular talk of "ADHD brains" for which Adderall works differently is pseudoscience tacitly endorsed by the medical community to make people feel okay about using these drugs. They don't just boost the school performance of people who have ADHD, they do that for everybody. It's a relatively harmless drug in the vein of caffeine, almost everybody would benifit from using it, not just the people with diagnosed attention disorders. Broad legalization would level the playing field. Meth is different, even though it's basically the same if you look at it reductively. Meth hits you fast, it's not slow release. It gives you mind melting sex and gives you psychosis if you use it a lot. In a world where Adderall is easily and legally accessible to everybody, meth will remain desirable and ruinous.

kjkjadksj 1y ago
I wouldn’t say it is relatively harmless like caffeine. You hardly notice an effect from caffeine. You take adderall you are noticeably stimming on the other hand. You feel quite high and it is in no way subtle.
- lupusreal 1y ago
  Caffeine isn't an amphetamine so there are differences, but caffeine hardly having a noticeable effect isn't one of them. Dose is everything. If you stick to coffee or cola that limits you, but pick up a bottle of OTC caffeine pills and you can really start to get wired and hurt yourself.
  - kjkjadksj 1y ago
    You get nausea before anything. I’ve done 10 cups before in one sitting in college. Just makes the stomach hurt. Very little action in the head other than a growing headache. Completely different than adderall which gives a very noticeable high.
LorenPechtel 1y ago
Disagree--it's not that it works differently, but whether the effect is desirable. There's always a balance between focusing on the task and dealing with the world. Adderall always turns up the focus. It's just that's a beneficial effect for those who didn't have enough focus, often an undesirable effect for those who already had enough. Saying it works differently on ADHD brains is like saying the furnace works differently on winter weather than on summer weather.

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