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All of which you should know, and can be easily found with a quick google. The moment we got a car with no physical key my first question was “what’s the backup

All of which you should know, and can be easily found with a quick google. The moment we got a car with no physical key my first question was “what’s the backup option and how does it work”. Basic knowledge about the things you own isn’t hard. My god there is a lot of old man shakes fist at cloud in here.

raincole 1y ago
Knowing how to get around a stupid design doesn't make it any less stupid.
- 9dev 1y ago
  The opposite take would be that there’s no need to shove something in the users face that they need less than once per year, but offer a more elaborate way to get there just in case.
  - asadotzler 1y ago
    How is some real clear key inside label on the fob "shoving something in the user's face"? How is visible keyhole, or at least not buried behind a snap off cover, "shoving something in the user's face"?
    - 9dev 1y ago
      It’s right in front of it? There’s a reason we hide unused sockets behind lids.
    - jama211 1y ago
      This all presupposes that any of that counts as “buried” - sounds to me like it’s subjective as to whether something is cleanly out of the way or buried, and it also sounds to me like someone who is looking at things to be mad at is more predisposed to view it as the latter ;)
    - jama211 1y ago
      Keyholes are ugly, and a users experience is subjective. I find them ugly and don’t want to see them, I’m not the guy that said “shoving in the users face” and that might be extreme, but I wouldn’t want to see a keyhole as it looks more aesthetically pleasing without it and that matters to me. Subjective experience matters.
- jama211 1y ago
  And refusing to learn basic things about the things you own just because you don’t like them doesn’t make that decision any less stupid.
sheiyei 1y ago
This is such an Apple user take. "Yes you can do that, but you're not supposed to so it's hidden behind so many menus that you can't find it except by accident and since I use it, I say sowwy to my phone every night before I go to sleep to make sure Apple doesn't get maddy mad at me"
- jama211 1y ago
  lol ok buddy, it’s time for kindergarten

raincole 1y ago

Knowing how to get around a stupid design doesn't make it any less stupid.

9dev 1y ago
The opposite take would be that there’s no need to shove something in the users face that they need less than once per year, but offer a more elaborate way to get there just in case.
- asadotzler 1y ago
  How is some real clear key inside label on the fob "shoving something in the user's face"? How is visible keyhole, or at least not buried behind a snap off cover, "shoving something in the user's face"?
  - 9dev 1y ago
    It’s right in front of it? There’s a reason we hide unused sockets behind lids.
  - jama211 1y ago
    This all presupposes that any of that counts as “buried” - sounds to me like it’s subjective as to whether something is cleanly out of the way or buried, and it also sounds to me like someone who is looking at things to be mad at is more predisposed to view it as the latter ;)
  - jama211 1y ago
    Keyholes are ugly, and a users experience is subjective. I find them ugly and don’t want to see them, I’m not the guy that said “shoving in the users face” and that might be extreme, but I wouldn’t want to see a keyhole as it looks more aesthetically pleasing without it and that matters to me. Subjective experience matters.
jama211 1y ago
And refusing to learn basic things about the things you own just because you don’t like them doesn’t make that decision any less stupid.

sheiyei 1y ago

This is such an Apple user take. "Yes you can do that, but you're not supposed to so it's hidden behind so many menus that you can't find it except by accident and since I use it, I say sowwy to my phone every night before I go to sleep to make sure Apple doesn't get maddy mad at me"

jama211 1y ago
lol ok buddy, it’s time for kindergarten