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For those who are unaware, there is another project [1] that tracks upstream which adds support for various codecs like Zstandard. Many folks (such as myself) o

by ofek 1y ago

For those who are unaware, there is another project [1] that tracks upstream which adds support for various codecs like Zstandard. Many folks (such as myself) opt to install their releases instead. [1]: https://github.com/mcmilk/7-Zip-zstd https://github.com/mcmilk/7-Zip-zstd

doubled112 1y ago
Perhaps a tangent, but until now, I've only seen or used "codec" in the audio/video sense. While somehow awkward, it seems this would also be correct, since it also compresses and decompresses. Video codec but archive format. Sometimes you see a word used a new way and wonder if you've just been wrong all these years.
- heavyset_go 1y ago
  The defining factor isn't compression/decompression, it's just encoding. You'll see codec used in things like text encoding.
  - deaddodo 1y ago
    While technically true, the term has been largely co-opted by the A/V realm. It’s pretty rare to hear outside of the context.
    - diroussel 1y ago
      Rare for people who don't deal with encoding and decoding maybe. To be clear the codec implements the compression (or other encoding) algorithm. So when talking about codec's we mean the implementation. But when talking about the algorithm, we are talking about the standard of encoding the encoder or decoder implements.
      - deaddodo 1y ago
        > Rare for people who don't deal with encoding and decoding maybe. No, rare in general. It's a layman's co-opting, and laymen outnumber specialists in every field.
    - heavyset_go 1y ago
      You commonly encounter the term when you want to do bytes to string conversions and vice versa on Python: https://docs.python.org/3/library/codecs.html https://docs.python.org/3/library/codecs.html
jccalhoun 1y ago
There is also NanaZip which aims to be a more modern Windows application and I think also incorporates the additions of the 7zs fork https://github.com/M2Team/NanaZip https://github.com/M2Team/NanaZip
_imnothere 1y ago
Maybe it's just me but I got weird feelings seeing 7-Zip-zstd repo having more stars than it's upstream.
- abhinavk 1y ago
  Github is just a mirror used to post sources of releases and track bugs. It has only 11 commits so far.
yashau 1y ago
I prefer NanaZip[1]. It has all the features of the ZS and NSIS fork while being fully compatible with the new Windows context menus. [1]: https://github.com/M2Team/NanaZip https://github.com/M2Team/NanaZip
chronial 1y ago
Note that the official 7z build supports zstd compression since version 24: https://github.com/ip7z/7zip/releases/tag/24.05 https://github.com/ip7z/7zip/releases/tag/24.05
- abhinavk 1y ago
  Only decompression, not compression.

by ofek 1y ago

doubled112 1y ago

Perhaps a tangent, but until now, I've only seen or used "codec" in the audio/video sense. While somehow awkward, it seems this would also be correct, since it also compresses and decompresses. Video codec but archive format. Sometimes you see a word used a new way and wonder if you've just been wrong all these years.

heavyset_go 1y ago
The defining factor isn't compression/decompression, it's just encoding. You'll see codec used in things like text encoding.
- deaddodo 1y ago
  While technically true, the term has been largely co-opted by the A/V realm. It’s pretty rare to hear outside of the context.
  - diroussel 1y ago
    Rare for people who don't deal with encoding and decoding maybe. To be clear the codec implements the compression (or other encoding) algorithm. So when talking about codec's we mean the implementation. But when talking about the algorithm, we are talking about the standard of encoding the encoder or decoder implements.
    - deaddodo 1y ago
      > Rare for people who don't deal with encoding and decoding maybe. No, rare in general. It's a layman's co-opting, and laymen outnumber specialists in every field.
  - heavyset_go 1y ago
    You commonly encounter the term when you want to do bytes to string conversions and vice versa on Python: https://docs.python.org/3/library/codecs.html https://docs.python.org/3/library/codecs.html

jccalhoun 1y ago

There is also NanaZip which aims to be a more modern Windows application and I think also incorporates the additions of the 7zs fork https://github.com/M2Team/NanaZip https://github.com/M2Team/NanaZip

_imnothere 1y ago

Maybe it's just me but I got weird feelings seeing 7-Zip-zstd repo having more stars than it's upstream.

abhinavk 1y ago
Github is just a mirror used to post sources of releases and track bugs. It has only 11 commits so far.

yashau 1y ago

I prefer NanaZip[1]. It has all the features of the ZS and NSIS fork while being fully compatible with the new Windows context menus. [1]: https://github.com/M2Team/NanaZip https://github.com/M2Team/NanaZip

chronial 1y ago

Note that the official 7z build supports zstd compression since version 24: https://github.com/ip7z/7zip/releases/tag/24.05 https://github.com/ip7z/7zip/releases/tag/24.05

abhinavk 1y ago
Only decompression, not compression.