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I think you missed the most important thing, more than any of those, if there is no service, then the service cannot delete or deny access to your data. And re

I think you missed the most important thing, more than any of those, if there is no service, then the service cannot delete or deny access to your data. And related, if there is no service, then the service cannot fail to secure your data. No possibility of a billing or login error, where you lose access to your stuff because they just think your're not current or valid when you are. No possibility of losing access because the internet is down or your current location is geo blocked etc. No possibility of your account being killed because they scanned the data and decided it contained child porn or pirated movies or software or cad files to make guns or hate speech etc. Those overlap with free and privacy but the seperate point is not the money or the privacy but the fact that someone else can kill your stuff at any time without warning or recourse. And someone else can lose your stuff, either directly by having their own servers broken into, or indirectly, by your login credentials getting leaked on your end.

jeffbee 1y ago
> the service cannot delete or deny access to your data... the service cannot fail to secure your data. You, on the other hand, are much more likely to do one or both of these things to yourself.
- scott_w 1y ago
  I’ve seen this happen in a previous job where the IT team of a customer deleted years worth of financial records because they didn’t know about it when they cleaned up the server. Our CEO had to go and help them rebuild their books, at great cost to the customer!
- hansvm 1y ago
  If we're tallying such things up, I've had those sorts of major issues with Trello, Google, Navionics, FitBit, FixD, and a number of other companies over the years. My local data on the other hand has had zero issues.
- Brian_K_White 1y ago
  I will never decide that my kids doctor photos are child porn and delete all my own access to both my email and phone number to access my own bank and retirement accounts. The fact that a hard drive can break and you can fail to have a backup is not remotely in the same class of problem of living at the whim of a service provider.

jeffbee 1y ago

> the service cannot delete or deny access to your data... the service cannot fail to secure your data. You, on the other hand, are much more likely to do one or both of these things to yourself.

scott_w 1y ago
I’ve seen this happen in a previous job where the IT team of a customer deleted years worth of financial records because they didn’t know about it when they cleaned up the server. Our CEO had to go and help them rebuild their books, at great cost to the customer!
hansvm 1y ago
If we're tallying such things up, I've had those sorts of major issues with Trello, Google, Navionics, FitBit, FixD, and a number of other companies over the years. My local data on the other hand has had zero issues.
Brian_K_White 1y ago
I will never decide that my kids doctor photos are child porn and delete all my own access to both my email and phone number to access my own bank and retirement accounts. The fact that a hard drive can break and you can fail to have a backup is not remotely in the same class of problem of living at the whim of a service provider.