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You complaining about a post being snide lol funny how that doesnt apply to an obvious bad faith argument like "deport people I disagree with".

by aydyn 1y ago

sorcerer-mar 1y ago
That obviously was not "the argument" being made, LOL. Check your carbon monoxide detector. Then come back and try to connect the dots between your non-sequiturs.
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ImPostingOnHN 1y ago
That doesn't look like something made in bad faith to me, given that we're seeing threats of precisely that from the usa president [1]. Unfortunately, it's hard to conclude that you're correct in your personal determination of bad faith, because you haven't explained that quote [0] which was evidently incomprehensible except to yourself. Are you sure you want to talk about the topic? Clearly explaining what you meant there [0] would be a good start if so. Why not just say what you mean, and we can all have a civil discussion? Everybody wins then, right? Not that I'm forcing you to discuss anything civilly if you're not into it. 0: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44466687 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44466687 1: https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/7/2/can-trump-strip-musk-and-mamdani-of-their-us-citizenship https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/7/2/can-trump-strip-musk...
- aydyn 1y ago
  That root post made a very civil request: what are realistic alternatives to mass deportation? Let's recap what kind of responses were made: * "It's your job to come up with an alternative" (not helpful) * "Just let them all stay" (not realistic) * "Actually Republican want illegal immigration, not Democrats, so they can rile up their base" (retarded) * Lots and lots and lots of ad hominem: "check your carbon monoxide monitor" The responses overall has just been completely lacking in any thought and lacking in any civility. It's a collective tantrum full stop. > Clearly explaining what you meant there [0] would be a good start if so. Don't gaslight. I reiterate that it was a direct response to a bad faith comment. There is nothing unclear about it. He suggested an unrealistic course of action which while he would be personally happy with, goes against what the vast majority of people would consider reasonable and hence fails the request for a "realistic alternative". > We simply deport anyone who makes the argument he's making The response is clear: that's unrealistic and not up to him. He understood exactly what it meant but didnt like his very own words used against him.
  - sorcerer-mar 1y ago
    No no, your comprehension is failing you again. The problem people are raising is not "mass deportation." The problem is violation of due process rights. This is not a viable solution because it is 1) blatantly illegal under the American Constitution and 2) undermines the very premise of the rule of law. One reason it is clearly not a viable solution is because if it were, then it would also be a viable solution simply to deport aydyn and people who think like him/her. Doing so would only entail the same convenience-driven Constitutional violations that the current administration is undertaking. Neither is a viable solution. Let's just get to the meat of the matter so you can pick between hypocrisy or ignorance. Please answer these yes/no questions: 1. Under the US Constitution, does someone suspected of being an illegal immigrant have a right to due process? 2. Is it acceptable to violate the US Constitution when convenient?
    - aydyn 1y ago
      Oh I'm sorry, I thought we already devolved into fully uncivil conversation? > Check your carbon monoxide detector.
      - sorcerer-mar 1y ago
        Thank you for sharing with everyone the level of thoughtfulness that backs opinions like yours. It’s a recipe anyone can follow: 1. Find MAGA pseudo-intellectualization 2. Ask basic factual question 3. Observe theatrical short-circuiting as brain fails to find footing in reality
        aydyn 1y ago
        Maybe if you get angry some more?
        komali2 1y ago
        You are a troll, and you've trolled effectively, but I hope others see your comments and then learn you aren't worth engaging with.

You complaining about a post being snide lol funny how that doesnt apply to an obvious bad faith argument like "deport people I disagree with".

by aydyn 1y ago

You complaining about a post being snide lol funny how that doesnt apply to an obvious bad faith argument like "deport people I disagree with".

sorcerer-mar 1y ago

That obviously was not "the argument" being made, LOL. Check your carbon monoxide detector. Then come back and try to connect the dots between your non-sequiturs.

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ImPostingOnHN 1y ago

That doesn't look like something made in bad faith to me, given that we're seeing threats of precisely that from the usa president [1]. Unfortunately, it's hard to conclude that you're correct in your personal determination of bad faith, because you haven't explained that quote [0] which was evidently incomprehensible except to yourself. Are you sure you want to talk about the topic? Clearly explaining what you meant there [0] would be a good start if so. Why not just say what you mean, and we can all have a civil discussion? Everybody wins then, right? Not that I'm forcing you to discuss anything civilly if you're not into it. 0: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44466687 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44466687 1: https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/7/2/can-trump-strip-musk-and-mamdani-of-their-us-citizenship https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/7/2/can-trump-strip-musk...

aydyn 1y ago
That root post made a very civil request: what are realistic alternatives to mass deportation? Let's recap what kind of responses were made: * "It's your job to come up with an alternative" (not helpful) * "Just let them all stay" (not realistic) * "Actually Republican want illegal immigration, not Democrats, so they can rile up their base" (retarded) * Lots and lots and lots of ad hominem: "check your carbon monoxide monitor" The responses overall has just been completely lacking in any thought and lacking in any civility. It's a collective tantrum full stop. > Clearly explaining what you meant there [0] would be a good start if so. Don't gaslight. I reiterate that it was a direct response to a bad faith comment. There is nothing unclear about it. He suggested an unrealistic course of action which while he would be personally happy with, goes against what the vast majority of people would consider reasonable and hence fails the request for a "realistic alternative". > We simply deport anyone who makes the argument he's making The response is clear: that's unrealistic and not up to him. He understood exactly what it meant but didnt like his very own words used against him.
- sorcerer-mar 1y ago
  No no, your comprehension is failing you again. The problem people are raising is not "mass deportation." The problem is violation of due process rights. This is not a viable solution because it is 1) blatantly illegal under the American Constitution and 2) undermines the very premise of the rule of law. One reason it is clearly not a viable solution is because if it were, then it would also be a viable solution simply to deport aydyn and people who think like him/her. Doing so would only entail the same convenience-driven Constitutional violations that the current administration is undertaking. Neither is a viable solution. Let's just get to the meat of the matter so you can pick between hypocrisy or ignorance. Please answer these yes/no questions: 1. Under the US Constitution, does someone suspected of being an illegal immigrant have a right to due process? 2. Is it acceptable to violate the US Constitution when convenient?
  - aydyn 1y ago
    Oh I'm sorry, I thought we already devolved into fully uncivil conversation? > Check your carbon monoxide detector.
    - sorcerer-mar 1y ago
      Thank you for sharing with everyone the level of thoughtfulness that backs opinions like yours. It’s a recipe anyone can follow: 1. Find MAGA pseudo-intellectualization 2. Ask basic factual question 3. Observe theatrical short-circuiting as brain fails to find footing in reality
      - aydyn 1y ago
        Maybe if you get angry some more?
        komali2 1y ago
        You are a troll, and you've trolled effectively, but I hope others see your comments and then learn you aren't worth engaging with.