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I do all of those except the last one. I don't understand the obsession to calculate calories if you're eating healthily. I lost some considerable weight that

by Pooge 1y ago

I do all of those except the last one. I don't understand the obsession to calculate calories if you're eating healthily. I lost some considerable weight that I did not intend to lose by just eating less red and more green. Don't think I can ever get it back.

purple_turtle 1y ago
For typical person reading it, it is a good advise to eat less calories. More and more people are obese or at least fat. There are some starving people, but with exception of some anorexics they are definitely not reading hn.
- Pooge 1y ago
  > For typical person reading it, it is a good advise to eat less calories. Why should they care about calories if they are eating healthily? It is a far better advice to eat more vegetables and less meat/processed than counting calories.
  - purple_turtle 1y ago
    Typical person reading this is overly fat or outright obese or on way to do this. There are people starving but they are not reading hn or are anorexics.
    - Pooge 1y ago
      Typical person reading this is ordering over-salted and sweet instant food from the comfort of their couch and waiting for the delivery to arrive. People like convenience and laziness and it doesn't help you when trying to eat correctly.
  - geoka9 1y ago
    Possibly because quitting comfort food cold-turkey rarely works for most people. Being aware of calories allows you to maintain the deficit while having cheat days (or meals). The goal is to find a lifestyle that works because relying purely on your willpower is not sustainable long term.
shafyy 1y ago
Obviously, if you have a good weight and low body fat, you don't need to limit your caloric intake. In this PDF nutritionfacts.org cites several studies that seem to show that caloric restriction might have health benefits outside of pure energy intake: https://app.box.com/file/1421942387675 https://app.box.com/file/1421942387675 But yes, I also don't count calories or whatever =)
- Pooge 1y ago
  I just think, and so does Dr Giles Yeo—author of Why Calories Don't Count—if you've heard of him, that advising people to eat more healthily would be more productive than telling them to start counting calories. Even if we're talking about losing weight. Quoting from his book: "If you focus on health, your weight will take care of itself".
  - shafyy 1y ago
    Yeah, I don't disagree.
Fire-Dragon-DoL 1y ago
Some of us have unlimited hunger, so tracking calories help me realize that if I'm still hungry, it's time to make a big salad or start eating celery sticks (and I'm not joking, that's what I do)
- prmph 1y ago
  Here's a salad recipe that is very tasty to me that I never tire of eating. I'm happy to pass it on, since it makes not feel like I'm missing out on anything. Ingredients: - Fresh Kale (shredded) or Aragula/Rocket leaves - Fresh onions (or better still the greens of leeks, since onions were making my reflux worse), sliced - Cherry or Roma tomatoes (sliced if necessary) - Canned chunky tuna in vegetable oil (preferably olive oil) with a bit of salt - Red apples (sliced). Could sub Clementines or a bit of dried mangoes (shredded) instead. - Pecan or Cashew nuts (toasted) Method: Just toss together the veggies and fruit, spoon the tuna on top, and sprinkle the nuts on top, that's all. Very crunchy, tasty, and healthy.
  - geoka9 1y ago
    Nice! I have a variation that's a bit lower end in terms of ingredients, preparation and calories, but I also never get tired of it: - Fresh greens (I find Whole Foods prewashed green mixes kind of cheap and convenient for the purpose) - Cherry tomatoes - Avocado - Olive oil, balsamic vinegar, salt and pepper Quick and filling (avocado does the trick) and OK to eat a ton if you're in the mood for a large meal.
    - Fire-Dragon-DoL 1y ago
      We have a version of it, avocado is just incredible with tomatoes, oil and salt. I do love lemon or lime instead of vinegar when there is avocado, it gives a really nice kick
      - geoka9 1y ago
        So true; and avocado also has the added benefit of filling you up "on the cheap" :) I find balsamic makes all the difference with greens and cherry tomatoes (white vinegar doesn't work as well).

by Pooge 1y ago

purple_turtle 1y ago

For typical person reading it, it is a good advise to eat less calories. More and more people are obese or at least fat. There are some starving people, but with exception of some anorexics they are definitely not reading hn.

Pooge 1y ago
> For typical person reading it, it is a good advise to eat less calories. Why should they care about calories if they are eating healthily? It is a far better advice to eat more vegetables and less meat/processed than counting calories.
- purple_turtle 1y ago
  Typical person reading this is overly fat or outright obese or on way to do this. There are people starving but they are not reading hn or are anorexics.
  - Pooge 1y ago
    Typical person reading this is ordering over-salted and sweet instant food from the comfort of their couch and waiting for the delivery to arrive. People like convenience and laziness and it doesn't help you when trying to eat correctly.
- geoka9 1y ago
  Possibly because quitting comfort food cold-turkey rarely works for most people. Being aware of calories allows you to maintain the deficit while having cheat days (or meals). The goal is to find a lifestyle that works because relying purely on your willpower is not sustainable long term.

shafyy 1y ago

Obviously, if you have a good weight and low body fat, you don't need to limit your caloric intake. In this PDF nutritionfacts.org cites several studies that seem to show that caloric restriction might have health benefits outside of pure energy intake: https://app.box.com/file/1421942387675 https://app.box.com/file/1421942387675 But yes, I also don't count calories or whatever =)

Pooge 1y ago
I just think, and so does Dr Giles Yeo—author of Why Calories Don't Count—if you've heard of him, that advising people to eat more healthily would be more productive than telling them to start counting calories. Even if we're talking about losing weight. Quoting from his book: "If you focus on health, your weight will take care of itself".
- shafyy 1y ago
  Yeah, I don't disagree.

Fire-Dragon-DoL 1y ago

Some of us have unlimited hunger, so tracking calories help me realize that if I'm still hungry, it's time to make a big salad or start eating celery sticks (and I'm not joking, that's what I do)

prmph 1y ago
Here's a salad recipe that is very tasty to me that I never tire of eating. I'm happy to pass it on, since it makes not feel like I'm missing out on anything. Ingredients: - Fresh Kale (shredded) or Aragula/Rocket leaves - Fresh onions (or better still the greens of leeks, since onions were making my reflux worse), sliced - Cherry or Roma tomatoes (sliced if necessary) - Canned chunky tuna in vegetable oil (preferably olive oil) with a bit of salt - Red apples (sliced). Could sub Clementines or a bit of dried mangoes (shredded) instead. - Pecan or Cashew nuts (toasted) Method: Just toss together the veggies and fruit, spoon the tuna on top, and sprinkle the nuts on top, that's all. Very crunchy, tasty, and healthy.
- geoka9 1y ago
  Nice! I have a variation that's a bit lower end in terms of ingredients, preparation and calories, but I also never get tired of it: - Fresh greens (I find Whole Foods prewashed green mixes kind of cheap and convenient for the purpose) - Cherry tomatoes - Avocado - Olive oil, balsamic vinegar, salt and pepper Quick and filling (avocado does the trick) and OK to eat a ton if you're in the mood for a large meal.
  - Fire-Dragon-DoL 1y ago
    We have a version of it, avocado is just incredible with tomatoes, oil and salt. I do love lemon or lime instead of vinegar when there is avocado, it gives a really nice kick
    - geoka9 1y ago
      So true; and avocado also has the added benefit of filling you up "on the cheap" :) I find balsamic makes all the difference with greens and cherry tomatoes (white vinegar doesn't work as well).