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I cut elon a tiny bit of slack because I remember ten years ago when a lot of us stupidly believed that deep learning just needed to be scaled up and self-drivi

I cut elon a tiny bit of slack because I remember ten years ago when a lot of us stupidly believed that deep learning just needed to be scaled up and self-driving was literally only 5 years away. Elon's problem was that he bet the farm on that assumption and has buried himself so deep in promises that he has seemingly no choice but to double down at every opportunity.

tempodox 1y ago
Someone in his position cannot afford fallacious thinking like that. Or so one would think.
- 01100011 1y ago
  He literally has his position thanks to fallacious thinking and the resulting statements. Technofetishists and low-level tech/IT folks love to lap up the crap coming out of elon's mouth.
  - rbanffy 1y ago
    There has to be a point where someone’s sphere of influence is so large lying should become a crime. All sorts of dangerous misinformation floats around and ends up killing people, from “FSD is safe” to “vaccines cause autism” to “drink bleach”, there has to be some accountability for these people who use their social influence to manipulate and profit from others.
dworks 1y ago
I've never believed that but I said the opposite - these cars will never drive themselves. Elon has caused an unknown but not small number of deaths through his misleading marketing. I cut him no slack.
- rbanffy 1y ago
  Not only the misleading marketing caused those deaths, Elon profited handsomely from those sales.
jeffreygoesto 1y ago
I used to tell the fanboys "Automated driving is like making children. Trying is much more fun than succeeding." ten years ago. But building a golem _was_ exciting to be honest.
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dzhiurgis 1y ago
A lot of Elon’s bets were protests against Google’s hegemony which seems to worked out - robotaxi has started and openai is crushing google search.
indolering 1y ago
All of his competitors chose to embrace sensor fusion. Elon applied his "first principles" heuristic and went ahead anyway. In court filings, even the head of his self-driving initiative disagreed with his timelines.

tempodox 1y ago

Someone in his position cannot afford fallacious thinking like that. Or so one would think.

01100011 1y ago
He literally has his position thanks to fallacious thinking and the resulting statements. Technofetishists and low-level tech/IT folks love to lap up the crap coming out of elon's mouth.
- rbanffy 1y ago
  There has to be a point where someone’s sphere of influence is so large lying should become a crime. All sorts of dangerous misinformation floats around and ends up killing people, from “FSD is safe” to “vaccines cause autism” to “drink bleach”, there has to be some accountability for these people who use their social influence to manipulate and profit from others.

dworks 1y ago

I've never believed that but I said the opposite - these cars will never drive themselves. Elon has caused an unknown but not small number of deaths through his misleading marketing. I cut him no slack.

rbanffy 1y ago
Not only the misleading marketing caused those deaths, Elon profited handsomely from those sales.

jeffreygoesto 1y ago

I used to tell the fanboys "Automated driving is like making children. Trying is much more fun than succeeding." ten years ago. But building a golem _was_ exciting to be honest.

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dzhiurgis 1y ago

A lot of Elon’s bets were protests against Google’s hegemony which seems to worked out - robotaxi has started and openai is crushing google search.

indolering 1y ago

All of his competitors chose to embrace sensor fusion. Elon applied his "first principles" heuristic and went ahead anyway. In court filings, even the head of his self-driving initiative disagreed with his timelines.