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> A system from 2017/2018 with an 8700K and an 8GB 2080 performs so closely to the top end, expensive systems today This is in no way true and is quite an absu

> A system from 2017/2018 with an 8700K and an 8GB 2080 performs so closely to the top end, expensive systems today This is in no way true and is quite an absurd claim. Unless you meant for some specific isolated purposed restricted purely to yourself and your performance needs. > there are very few use cases I can think of needing more than a 30 series card right now. How about I like high refresh and high resolutions? I'll throw in VR to boot. Which are my real use cases. I use a high refresh 4K display and VR, both have benefited hugely from my 2080Ti > 4090 Shift.

Der_Einzige 1y ago
I have this exact CPU sans a 3090 (I started with 2080 but upgraded due to local AI needs). 8700k is perfectly fine for todays workloads. CPUs have stagnated and also the amount of RAM in systems has too (Apple still macbook air defaults of 8 GB in 2025??????)
- theshackleford 1y ago
  It wasn’t “workloads” being talked about, it was gaming performance, the one area in which there is an absolutely huge difference mainly on the GPU side. We are taking a difference of close too if not 100%. And despite CPUs stagnating it’s absolutely still possible to be held back on a stronger GPU with an older CPU especially in areas such as 1% lows, stuttering etc.
  - leakycap 1y ago
    > This is in no way true and is quite an absurd claim. You provided no evidence to back up this very strong statement; should we just take your word for it? > especially in areas such as 1% lows, stuttering etc. Oh, if you're willing to spend $1k to improve your 1% lows, I guess your argument makes sense.
    - theshackleford 1y ago
      > You provided no evidence to back up this very strong statement; should we just take your word for it? Where is your evidence? You were the one making grand claims entirely unsupported by reality. Should we just take your word for it? It seems to have been your expectation given you backed it with literally nothing. My evidence would be literally any benchmark in existence and the fact I actually owned the 2080ti and now own modern a modern high end GPU. They are not even remotely in the same class of performance in anything other than your head. But hey if that isn’t enough: https://www.techpowerup.com/review/nvidia-geforce-rtx-5080-founders-edition/34.html https://www.techpowerup.com/review/nvidia-geforce-rtx-5080-f... Now go on, I eagerly await any evidence that supports your claim. Take all the time you need.
      - leakycap 1y ago
        > Take all the time you need. Oooh, got me hard with that ending. Now I really wanna spend my time engaging with you, great job on furthering the discussion and making a positive impact. Cheers on the world you make for yourself - you're the one who gets to experience it.
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Der_Einzige 1y ago

I have this exact CPU sans a 3090 (I started with 2080 but upgraded due to local AI needs). 8700k is perfectly fine for todays workloads. CPUs have stagnated and also the amount of RAM in systems has too (Apple still macbook air defaults of 8 GB in 2025??????)

theshackleford 1y ago
It wasn’t “workloads” being talked about, it was gaming performance, the one area in which there is an absolutely huge difference mainly on the GPU side. We are taking a difference of close too if not 100%. And despite CPUs stagnating it’s absolutely still possible to be held back on a stronger GPU with an older CPU especially in areas such as 1% lows, stuttering etc.
- leakycap 1y ago
  > This is in no way true and is quite an absurd claim. You provided no evidence to back up this very strong statement; should we just take your word for it? > especially in areas such as 1% lows, stuttering etc. Oh, if you're willing to spend $1k to improve your 1% lows, I guess your argument makes sense.
  - theshackleford 1y ago
    > You provided no evidence to back up this very strong statement; should we just take your word for it? Where is your evidence? You were the one making grand claims entirely unsupported by reality. Should we just take your word for it? It seems to have been your expectation given you backed it with literally nothing. My evidence would be literally any benchmark in existence and the fact I actually owned the 2080ti and now own modern a modern high end GPU. They are not even remotely in the same class of performance in anything other than your head. But hey if that isn’t enough: https://www.techpowerup.com/review/nvidia-geforce-rtx-5080-founders-edition/34.html https://www.techpowerup.com/review/nvidia-geforce-rtx-5080-f... Now go on, I eagerly await any evidence that supports your claim. Take all the time you need.
    - leakycap 1y ago
      > Take all the time you need. Oooh, got me hard with that ending. Now I really wanna spend my time engaging with you, great job on furthering the discussion and making a positive impact. Cheers on the world you make for yourself - you're the one who gets to experience it.
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