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> The item lost is pipeline of talent in all of this though. Totally agree. However, I think this pipeline has been taking a hit for a while already because j
by thunky 1y ago
> The item lost is pipeline of talent in all of this though.
Totally agree.
However, I think this pipeline has been taking a hit for a while already because juniors as a whole have been devaluing themselves: if we expect them to leave after one year, what's the point of hiring and training them? Only helping their next employer at that point.
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- hobs 1y agoThat old canard? If you pay people in a way that incentivizes them to stay, they will. If you train people and treat them right and pay them right, they wont leave. If they are, try to fix one of those things, stop blaming the juniors for their massive collusion in a market where they literally are struggling to get jobs.
- georgemcbay 1y agoIts the employers who are responsible for the fact that almost everyone working in tech (across all skill levels) will have a far easier time advancing in both pay and title by jumping jobs often. Very few companies put any real thought into meaningful retention but they are quick to complain about turnover.
- thunky 1y agoYes I agree it works both ways. Employment is a transaction and both sides are trying to optimize outcomes in their own best interest. No blame. The health of the job market is a big factor as well.
- Ferrus91 1y ago> However, I think this pipeline has been taking a hit for a while already because juniors as a whole have been devaluing themselves I have seen the standards for junior devs in free fall for a few years as they hired tons of bootcamp fodder over the last few years. I have lost count of the number of whinging junior devs who think SQL or regex is 'too hard' for their poor little brains. No wonder they are being replaced by a probabilistic magician's hat.