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Putting aside Musk hate, Cybertruck is just not a good car. When conceived initially, it had some pretty interesting ideas. The thought process was probably li

Putting aside Musk hate, Cybertruck is just not a good car. When conceived initially, it had some pretty interesting ideas. The thought process was probably like: Hmm... What if we use stainless steel instead of regular steel and avoid all the expenses of the paint shop? But then we need to use thicker panels because stainless steel is not great mechanically. So let's double down on thickness and make the panels a load-bearing "exoskeleton", this will also help us to avoid the weight penalty of the frame! But we can't stamp panels that are this thick, we just don't have big enough presses. So let's try to do this "flat" design. But they failed to achieve that. And now they have a regular boring body-on-the-frame car, with thick panels just adding useless weight and cutting down the battery range. And then there's this steer-by-wire gimmick because Elon really wanted the yoke to happen. The only remaining true improvement is the 48V power-over-Ethernet architecture.

sjsdaiuasgdia 1y ago
It's just a bundle of bad decisions and unfortunate compromises. The uniwiper. The wheel-supporting bolts made for a much lighter vehicle. The glued on cantrails. The glue-installed light bar. The snow-collecting headlight shelf. The frequently jamming tonneau cover. The panel gaps. The sharp edges. The gear selector that likes to fall down from the ceiling. The weird discolorations and scuff marks the bed often has on delivery. The shitty cupholders. People paid $100k for this. It's criminally bad at that price.
anonymousiam 1y ago
I agree with everything you've written. The required engineering was just too ambitious. I ordered one on announcement day (11/21/2019). Yeah, I thought it was ugly, but the main selling point for me was its promised ability to go 500 miles on a single charge. (Apparently Musk has a habit of making promises he cannot keep.) I really wanted that 500 mile range. My two homes are 300 miles apart, and I don't want to waste my time at a charging station while traveling between them. I also liked the idea of using the truck as a power-wall for my (4kW) solar plant. I cancelled my order and got my $100 back (after inflation ate about 20% of it). The Lucid Air (GT) offers similar range (512 miles), but it's not a truck, which I also really wanted. (I have enough cars already.) Also, the price of the Lucid Air was more than double that of the promised CT price. In the end, the CT price went up and the Lucid Air price went down, so they're now within about 10% of each other.
- ineedasername 1y ago
  >My two homes are 300 miles apart That sounds like a problem solvable by a 3rd home.
  - pixxel 1y ago
    Easily walkable with 30 homes.

sjsdaiuasgdia 1y ago

It's just a bundle of bad decisions and unfortunate compromises. The uniwiper. The wheel-supporting bolts made for a much lighter vehicle. The glued on cantrails. The glue-installed light bar. The snow-collecting headlight shelf. The frequently jamming tonneau cover. The panel gaps. The sharp edges. The gear selector that likes to fall down from the ceiling. The weird discolorations and scuff marks the bed often has on delivery. The shitty cupholders. People paid $100k for this. It's criminally bad at that price.

anonymousiam 1y ago

I agree with everything you've written. The required engineering was just too ambitious. I ordered one on announcement day (11/21/2019). Yeah, I thought it was ugly, but the main selling point for me was its promised ability to go 500 miles on a single charge. (Apparently Musk has a habit of making promises he cannot keep.) I really wanted that 500 mile range. My two homes are 300 miles apart, and I don't want to waste my time at a charging station while traveling between them. I also liked the idea of using the truck as a power-wall for my (4kW) solar plant. I cancelled my order and got my $100 back (after inflation ate about 20% of it). The Lucid Air (GT) offers similar range (512 miles), but it's not a truck, which I also really wanted. (I have enough cars already.) Also, the price of the Lucid Air was more than double that of the promised CT price. In the end, the CT price went up and the Lucid Air price went down, so they're now within about 10% of each other.

ineedasername 1y ago
>My two homes are 300 miles apart That sounds like a problem solvable by a 3rd home.
- pixxel 1y ago
  Easily walkable with 30 homes.