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> Then LIDAR was disabled/removed. Radar, not lidar. Tesla cars never had lidar.

• leakycap 1y ago
  Thank you for correcting this, I've edited it in an obvious way so I don't misinform. There's enough of that on Tesla already. I recall Tesla having vehicles in their testing with Lidar and had no idea they never shipped it. My 2015 towing VW has two radar sensors on the front for adaptive cruise and 5 cameras for lanekeeping. The cameras constantly come on and offline depending on visibility, cleanliness, and even weather. The radars have never once misperformed. I can't imagine even trusting automatic cruise control to "vision only", much less what they are calling self-driving features. Having driven plenty of cars with adaptive cruise using only one front radar, I can't really even suggest that - false positives are likely to happen to any driver that racks up mileage when the brakes can be fully applied based on single forward radar sensor covered in bug guts.