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The Hitler salutes and the endorsement of Trump were the final straws. The scuba diver thing and the incessant false promises laid the groundwork. He’s left the
by tormeh 1y ago
The Hitler salutes and the endorsement of Trump were the final straws. The scuba diver thing and the incessant false promises laid the groundwork. He’s left the tribe of reasonable people. So yes, not in my tribe. He’s funded some cool work, but that only buys so much goodwill.
- bapak 1y ago[flagged]
- jazzyjackson 1y agoBecause he's a troll. He spends all day on Twitter. Trolling is fun, and like Trump, he's mentally ill and mistakes attention for acceptance.
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- _aavaa_ 1y agoDid he actually deny it and denounce the many neo-nazis and actual nazis who clearly saw it for what it was?
- yongjik 1y agoSalute because he wants to (and it riles up his fanbase), immediately deny it because he wants to, and because it riles up his fanbase again, because nothing says "I am the man of power" like being able to deny what everybody's seen with their own eyes, and gloat at people shaking in rage. Things start to make a lot of sense w.r.t. Musk and Trump when you view them as bullies, and their supporters as wannabe bullies, and they're cheering for the greatest bullies they've ever seen in their lives.
- an0malous 1y agoWhen did he deny it? Do you have a source? He could easily have deflated the controversy if he apologized and explained that it was unintentional and that he denounces the Nazi party. Instead he gave a speech to the AFD (the modern German Nazi party) about how white people shouldn't have to feel ashamed of their history like a week later. As far as I know, he has never directly apologized or tried to explain the gesture.
- bapak 1y agoTook me 5 seconds to find a source https://youtu.be/AbkboSu2ALk https://youtu.be/AbkboSu2ALk > He could easily have deflated the controversy if he apologized That's all you guys want. Apologies. Apologies for something one believes didn't do. Would you apologize if I thought you were racist? You're not racist, right? So apologize for me thinking you are. Also explain to me how you're not racist. I'm just playing devil's advocate here, I think the guy's a tool.
- an0malous 1y agoThat’s not a denial, a denial would be “no I didn’t do a Nazi salute.” He has never said that, and you’re conveniently ignoring the speech he gave to white nationalists a week later. If I said the n word, you would have a reason to believe I’m racist and I would apologize for using a word that is unambiguously associated with racists, even if I’m not a racist.
- terminatornet 1y agoAfter this he immediately spoke at a campaign event for a far right German group > On Saturday, Musk spoke repeatedly about the importance of Germans taking pride in their heritage. > "It's good to be proud of German culture and German values, and not to lose that in some sort of multiculturalism that dilutes everything," Musk said. > Then, in an apparent reference to the Nazi era, Musk added that there is "frankly too much of a focus on past guilt and we need to move beyond that." They do say that those who forget the past will never repeat it. Ah well! https://www.npr.org/2025/01/27/nx-s1-5276084/elon-musk-german-far-right-afd-holocaust https://www.npr.org/2025/01/27/nx-s1-5276084/elon-musk-germa...
- bapak 1y agoSounds about right? Today's Germans shouldn't feel guilty about the atrocities their great grandparents did. If they should, maybe look into your own heritage a bit. Guilt has nothing to do with denying the past.
- terminatornet 1y agoI'm jewish and think I know where I stand on german's feeling guilty about the past.
- sorcerer-mar 1y agoTo be explicit about what many commentators are implying: he in fact did not deny it.
- jaybrendansmith 1y agoIn this country, we kill Nazis. Or at least, we used to. It's a long way to Tipperary...