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Sort of. I think more specifically he is pushing candidates and actions that directly attack groups of people and using his wealth to do so. So why continue to

Sort of. I think more specifically he is pushing candidates and actions that directly attack groups of people and using his wealth to do so. So why continue to fund someone who is using that money to attack you?

al_borland 1y ago
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- NewJazz 1y ago
  What did the Wisconsin supreme court election have to do with the government budget? Musk's political action committee used a nearly identical tactic before the presidential election last year, offering to pay $1 million a day to voters in Wisconsin and six other battleground states who signed a petition supporting the First and Second Amendments. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/elon-musk-wisconsin-supreme-court-rally-1-milion-giveaway/ https://www.cbsnews.com/news/elon-musk-wisconsin-supreme-cou...
- terminatornet 1y ago
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- sorcerer-mar 1y ago
  A lot of Americans think there were better ways to save money than to kill millions of people, turn the American flag into a global symbol of inhumanity and betrayal, hobble critical services, make government an even less appealing place for competent people to work, and then balloon the deficit anyway. Curious, ain't it. https://time.com/7298994/usaid-deaths-studies-estimates-foreign-aid-hiv-aids-malaria-sudan/ https://time.com/7298994/usaid-deaths-studies-estimates-fore...
- AndrewDucker 1y ago
  The government already had an office of budgetary responsibility and oversight. His approach was not one of someone who had carefully investigated the situation, found real issues, and was sensibly trying to fix them. It was an idiot with a chainsaw, chopping wildly at things, so that he could say that he'd made them smaller.
- okbuuuut 1y ago
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- AnimalMuppet 1y ago
  I don't have a problem with wanting the government to be fiscally responsible. I don't even have a problem with thoroughly auditing exactly what the government is spending money on. I have a problem with the way DOGE went about it. Several problems, in fact. "Move fast and break things" is perhaps a reasonable startup strategy. It's entertaining with rockets. But when what's being broken is not just the government but the rule of law, I am no longer entertained.
- ben_w 1y ago
  "Just" is the error leading to your confusion. He also supported the AfD in Germany; he also offered a million dollars to people before the election in a way that looked like a bribe even if it technically wasn't. Also Musk's actions in support of Trump may have hastened the failure of the US government, because Trump is purging disagreement rather than incompetence, also the operation of DOGE was classic Muntzing strategy of remove everything and only put it back when something breaks which resulted in at least e.g. people involved with maintaining the USA's nuclear deterrant needing to be un-fired.
- acdha 1y ago
  If he wanted fiscal stability, he would have been lobbying Congress rather than incurring massive costs for the government. DOGE’s reckless violations of law and policy have guaranteed many large lawsuits, sloppy staff cuts regardless of merit have decreased efficiency across the board, and cuts to things like the IRS reduce revenue. This is the opposite of a serious effort to improve efficiency, in large part because they started from the belief that there was a massive fraud and waste problem based on ideology rather than sober analysis.
- jmye 1y ago
  > It seems he just wanted to try and get the government financially healthy again. Demonstrable bullshit, given his actual actions. Doge was an idiotic waste of time that saved next to nothing, and cost the government significantly more via the IRS cuts. Come on, now.

al_borland 1y ago

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NewJazz 1y ago
What did the Wisconsin supreme court election have to do with the government budget? Musk's political action committee used a nearly identical tactic before the presidential election last year, offering to pay $1 million a day to voters in Wisconsin and six other battleground states who signed a petition supporting the First and Second Amendments. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/elon-musk-wisconsin-supreme-court-rally-1-milion-giveaway/ https://www.cbsnews.com/news/elon-musk-wisconsin-supreme-cou...
terminatornet 1y ago
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sorcerer-mar 1y ago
A lot of Americans think there were better ways to save money than to kill millions of people, turn the American flag into a global symbol of inhumanity and betrayal, hobble critical services, make government an even less appealing place for competent people to work, and then balloon the deficit anyway. Curious, ain't it. https://time.com/7298994/usaid-deaths-studies-estimates-foreign-aid-hiv-aids-malaria-sudan/ https://time.com/7298994/usaid-deaths-studies-estimates-fore...
AndrewDucker 1y ago
The government already had an office of budgetary responsibility and oversight. His approach was not one of someone who had carefully investigated the situation, found real issues, and was sensibly trying to fix them. It was an idiot with a chainsaw, chopping wildly at things, so that he could say that he'd made them smaller.
okbuuuut 1y ago
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AnimalMuppet 1y ago
I don't have a problem with wanting the government to be fiscally responsible. I don't even have a problem with thoroughly auditing exactly what the government is spending money on. I have a problem with the way DOGE went about it. Several problems, in fact. "Move fast and break things" is perhaps a reasonable startup strategy. It's entertaining with rockets. But when what's being broken is not just the government but the rule of law, I am no longer entertained.
ben_w 1y ago
"Just" is the error leading to your confusion. He also supported the AfD in Germany; he also offered a million dollars to people before the election in a way that looked like a bribe even if it technically wasn't. Also Musk's actions in support of Trump may have hastened the failure of the US government, because Trump is purging disagreement rather than incompetence, also the operation of DOGE was classic Muntzing strategy of remove everything and only put it back when something breaks which resulted in at least e.g. people involved with maintaining the USA's nuclear deterrant needing to be un-fired.
acdha 1y ago
If he wanted fiscal stability, he would have been lobbying Congress rather than incurring massive costs for the government. DOGE’s reckless violations of law and policy have guaranteed many large lawsuits, sloppy staff cuts regardless of merit have decreased efficiency across the board, and cuts to things like the IRS reduce revenue. This is the opposite of a serious effort to improve efficiency, in large part because they started from the belief that there was a massive fraud and waste problem based on ideology rather than sober analysis.
jmye 1y ago
> It seems he just wanted to try and get the government financially healthy again. Demonstrable bullshit, given his actual actions. Doge was an idiotic waste of time that saved next to nothing, and cost the government significantly more via the IRS cuts. Come on, now.