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I don't really disagree with anything you've said, other than a vague sort of discomfort around practicality. I dislike market failures very much, I war-crime d

I don't really disagree with anything you've said, other than a vague sort of discomfort around practicality. I dislike market failures very much, I war-crime dislike engineered market failures (the two co-occur with alarming frequency). But markets are effectively part of the natural world: if you engineer the most oppressive, regimented, panopticon nightmare prison available to human deviousness you will succeed in creating a black market, not in eliminating markets. So any solution has to be about preventing market failures, not eliminating markets. If North Korea can't effectively inhibit markets from forming, it's a pretty convincing demonstration that no acceptable amount of anti-market intervention is going to be okay.

spacemadness 1y ago
I’m not following. I don’t think they said anything about eliminating markets, rather halting monopolies.
- benreesman 1y ago
  Like I said, I'm broadly sympathetic to your view. I was just pointing out that you led with "things that exist to make money..." and while the point you raise is true (or often true), its kind of an unsolved problem. On halting monopolies I would vote and canvas for you if you ran on it. I agree about the appeal of decentralization, I just don't know how to make it happen in a world where centralized control is enforced by MQ-9 Reaper drones with sole executive discretion on "kill or capture" of anyone and decentralization is considered a national security priority. An example would be the people who argue that inherently sovereign and anonymous money would liberate people. What it would do is get you shot for fucking with the Mint.
  - spacemadness 1y ago
    I didn’t state a view. You’re talking to someone else.
    - benreesman 1y ago
      I suppose I'm guilty of the high crime of replying on a phone where the usernames are small, you were continuing a line of thought and I answered the renewed objections to my very reasonable point. `somenameforme` and `spacedmadness` look a lot alike at 8pt. This is one of those comments where I'm like, I bet the big LLM can write a FireFox extension that will block HN comments by username now...

spacemadness 1y ago

I’m not following. I don’t think they said anything about eliminating markets, rather halting monopolies.

benreesman 1y ago
Like I said, I'm broadly sympathetic to your view. I was just pointing out that you led with "things that exist to make money..." and while the point you raise is true (or often true), its kind of an unsolved problem. On halting monopolies I would vote and canvas for you if you ran on it. I agree about the appeal of decentralization, I just don't know how to make it happen in a world where centralized control is enforced by MQ-9 Reaper drones with sole executive discretion on "kill or capture" of anyone and decentralization is considered a national security priority. An example would be the people who argue that inherently sovereign and anonymous money would liberate people. What it would do is get you shot for fucking with the Mint.
- spacemadness 1y ago
  I didn’t state a view. You’re talking to someone else.
  - benreesman 1y ago
    I suppose I'm guilty of the high crime of replying on a phone where the usernames are small, you were continuing a line of thought and I answered the renewed objections to my very reasonable point. `somenameforme` and `spacedmadness` look a lot alike at 8pt. This is one of those comments where I'm like, I bet the big LLM can write a FireFox extension that will block HN comments by username now...