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Humans think they are whale food is just the same as the cat in our yard that sure I'm gonna make a goulash from him instead of serving him some.

by yard2010 1y ago

swores 1y ago
Would you mind rephrasing your comment, as currently I really don't understand what you're trying to say at all... edit: I originally wrote out a long comment about exactly why your comment doesn't make sense to me, but after posting it I felt it was ridiculously long for its purpose, so if you want to waste time reading it you can find it here - https://pastebin.com/Y11P8ETs https://pastebin.com/Y11P8ETs - but I think asking you to explain what you meant more clearly is enough for here :)
- dpassens 1y ago
  GP's comment reads reasonably clear to me: humans fearing orcas might eat them are about as rational as the cat visiting GP's garden, which also seems to be convinced GP wants to harm rather than feed it.
  - swores 1y ago
    Ah, OK that does now make sense to me, thanks. I think I didn't manage to see that meaning because the comment it was replying to had nothing to do with humans thinking orcas want to eat them, it was about orcas bringing food (like dead fish) to give to the humans. So more like a pet cat bringing a dead mouse to its owner than a cat in the garden fearing that the human wants to eat it?
    - shayway 1y ago
      For what it's worth I was lost too. Even with the explanation it took a few minutes to fully parse.
  - mr_toad 1y ago
    People do, or have eaten cats, mainly when they’re starving. I’m not sure I’d want to be in the water with a starving Orca.
    - quickthrowman 1y ago
      I’d be fine in the water near an orca in the wild as long as there aren’t any seals around. There is one alleged documented attack by non-captive orcas on humans and that guy claims he was near seals at the time. I’d probably be nervous if I was sailing on the Atlantic Iberian coast and saw orcas, they’ve been ramming and pushing rudders and fucking around with sailboats, no thanks. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iberian_orca_attacks https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iberian_orca_attacks
  - dfxm12 1y ago
    At best, it is missing a verb. This is compounded by it's poor grammar (or poor style) and the fact that it is a non-sequitor to the comment it replied to. Someone can get reasonably lost reading it. ETA: swores mentions this in their pastebin
bmitc 1y ago
Humans certainly do kill cats both for food and "fun". And orcas will, from time to time, kill things that they don't eat. Even the exclusively fish eating orcas in the Pacific Northwest have been witnessed killing seals, even though they never eat seals. Not being afraid of orcas is a show of lack of respect for them. They can weight up to 10,000 pounds, swim at bursts of 35 mph, swim at slower speeds for huge stretches, launch their bodies tens of feet out of the water, and kill anything from salmon and rays to great white sharks, humpback whales, and even blue whales. There is a lot of argument that they may be the greatest predator ever, on land or sea. A domestic cat can easily wound a human and can usually get away. That is not true of a human in the water and an orca. Yes, orcas are extremely, extremely intelligent, and there's zero reason for them to eat us for nutrition, as they are highly tuned eaters that maximize their calorie intake per effort. However, a human is completely within an orca's decision process as to whether the human lives or not.

Humans think they are whale food is just the same as the cat in our yard that sure I'm gonna make a goulash from him instead of serving him some.

swores 1y ago

Would you mind rephrasing your comment, as currently I really don't understand what you're trying to say at all... edit: I originally wrote out a long comment about exactly why your comment doesn't make sense to me, but after posting it I felt it was ridiculously long for its purpose, so if you want to waste time reading it you can find it here - https://pastebin.com/Y11P8ETs https://pastebin.com/Y11P8ETs - but I think asking you to explain what you meant more clearly is enough for here :)

dpassens 1y ago
GP's comment reads reasonably clear to me: humans fearing orcas might eat them are about as rational as the cat visiting GP's garden, which also seems to be convinced GP wants to harm rather than feed it.
- swores 1y ago
  Ah, OK that does now make sense to me, thanks. I think I didn't manage to see that meaning because the comment it was replying to had nothing to do with humans thinking orcas want to eat them, it was about orcas bringing food (like dead fish) to give to the humans. So more like a pet cat bringing a dead mouse to its owner than a cat in the garden fearing that the human wants to eat it?
  - shayway 1y ago
    For what it's worth I was lost too. Even with the explanation it took a few minutes to fully parse.
- mr_toad 1y ago
  People do, or have eaten cats, mainly when they’re starving. I’m not sure I’d want to be in the water with a starving Orca.
  - quickthrowman 1y ago
    I’d be fine in the water near an orca in the wild as long as there aren’t any seals around. There is one alleged documented attack by non-captive orcas on humans and that guy claims he was near seals at the time. I’d probably be nervous if I was sailing on the Atlantic Iberian coast and saw orcas, they’ve been ramming and pushing rudders and fucking around with sailboats, no thanks. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iberian_orca_attacks https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iberian_orca_attacks
- dfxm12 1y ago
  At best, it is missing a verb. This is compounded by it's poor grammar (or poor style) and the fact that it is a non-sequitor to the comment it replied to. Someone can get reasonably lost reading it. ETA: swores mentions this in their pastebin

bmitc 1y ago

Humans certainly do kill cats both for food and "fun". And orcas will, from time to time, kill things that they don't eat. Even the exclusively fish eating orcas in the Pacific Northwest have been witnessed killing seals, even though they never eat seals. Not being afraid of orcas is a show of lack of respect for them. They can weight up to 10,000 pounds, swim at bursts of 35 mph, swim at slower speeds for huge stretches, launch their bodies tens of feet out of the water, and kill anything from salmon and rays to great white sharks, humpback whales, and even blue whales. There is a lot of argument that they may be the greatest predator ever, on land or sea. A domestic cat can easily wound a human and can usually get away. That is not true of a human in the water and an orca. Yes, orcas are extremely, extremely intelligent, and there's zero reason for them to eat us for nutrition, as they are highly tuned eaters that maximize their calorie intake per effort. However, a human is completely within an orca's decision process as to whether the human lives or not.