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The article is about the overall findings and their implications, not just the specific paper istelf. Scientists will always be conservative in what they publis

by zmmmmm 1y ago

The article is about the overall findings and their implications, not just the specific paper istelf. Scientists will always be conservative in what they publish, scoping it down to the minimum interpretation that is supported by their evidence. The article directly interviews authors of the study and quotes them, eg: > We are witnessing a true reversal of ocean circulation in the Southern Hemisphere—something we’ve never seen before,” explains Antonio Turiel, ICM-CSIC researcher and co-author of the study. If you incorporate these statements it seems quite reasonable to me. You can argue with the author of the study saying that but I can't see an issue with an article reporting that they did, if that's what actually happened.

nattopizza 1y ago
He's the only that says something that drastic in the article, and he's a physicist, not a climate scientist. The other two comments are from telecommunication engineers. I'd wait a bit to see what the general climate science community has to say about the study. Based solely on the facts reported in the paper I'd say the most worrying point is precisely that we don't know what's going on.
- BlueTemplar 1y ago
  Something like this : https://arctic-news.blogspot.com/2025/07/saltier-water-less-sea-ice.html https://arctic-news.blogspot.com/2025/07/saltier-water-less-... (Though, to be fair, they are more on the doomer side.)
  - nattopizza 1y ago
    I tried looking up Sam Carana and found nothing about him. What climate science credentials does he have?
nattopizza 1y ago
> You can argue with the author of the study saying that but I can't see an issue with an article reporting that they did, if that's what actually happened. I think that's kind of the point: nobody knows if that's what actually happened and the study doesn't show any information to support any specific theory. I could be that (though I think it would be unlikely as we'd have probably seen a real steady decline in the ice sheet and not an up and down up), something else that is still concerning but not as severe, or maybe something that we didn't now before and is not as concerning.

by zmmmmm 1y ago

nattopizza 1y ago

He's the only that says something that drastic in the article, and he's a physicist, not a climate scientist. The other two comments are from telecommunication engineers. I'd wait a bit to see what the general climate science community has to say about the study. Based solely on the facts reported in the paper I'd say the most worrying point is precisely that we don't know what's going on.

BlueTemplar 1y ago
Something like this : https://arctic-news.blogspot.com/2025/07/saltier-water-less-sea-ice.html https://arctic-news.blogspot.com/2025/07/saltier-water-less-... (Though, to be fair, they are more on the doomer side.)
- nattopizza 1y ago
  I tried looking up Sam Carana and found nothing about him. What climate science credentials does he have?

nattopizza 1y ago

> You can argue with the author of the study saying that but I can't see an issue with an article reporting that they did, if that's what actually happened. I think that's kind of the point: nobody knows if that's what actually happened and the study doesn't show any information to support any specific theory. I could be that (though I think it would be unlikely as we'd have probably seen a real steady decline in the ice sheet and not an up and down up), something else that is still concerning but not as severe, or maybe something that we didn't now before and is not as concerning.