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It kind of sounds like you need to offer a solution not him. Because his side did come up with a solution and are implementing it.
by aydyn 1y ago
It kind of sounds like you need to offer a solution not him. Because his side did come up with a solution and are implementing it.
- lcnPylGDnU4H9OF 1y agoSome people start abducting anyone off the streets and it’s called a “solution” so other people who don’t like it need to shut up or offer a better one? Well, we are each entitled to our opinion and I don’t agree with that one. Anyway, here’s a better solution: let them stay. I can’t see how that would be nearly as bad as this. For me personally, for my neighbors, for the rust belt, indeed for anybody except those wanting to abuse power.
- aydyn 1y agoI think this conversation is very clearly people speaking past each other. Let's reset. They are asking for a solution that is realistic. Something that is happening right now is, by definition, a realistic outcome. "Let everyone stay" is not a realistic solution for obvious reasons.
- lcnPylGDnU4H9OF 1y ago> They are asking for a solution that is realistic. Indeed, they asked for “a good faith solution to the problem other than just letting them all stay here forever” and I explicitly said I did not have this. I also see them and you saying “someone” should come up with a solution and, failing to find one yourselves, say deportation without any court hearing is acceptable. I’ve outlined my reasons for why that is dangerous and unacceptable and you just throw up your hands and say it must happen because it’s happening. (Did you notice how you went from “solution” to “outcome” and then back to “solution”? People are decrying the “outcome” because it’s a shit “solution”. Yes, it seems we are talking past each other.)
- aydyn 1y ago> Did you notice how you went from “solution” to “outcome” and then back to “solution”? Thats perhaps a bad habit of mine, finding synonyms as I dont like to repeat the same word in the next sentence. > Indeed, they asked for “a good faith solution to the problem other than just letting them all stay here forever” and I explicitly said I did not have this. I also see them and you saying “someone” should come up with a solution and, failing to find one yourselves, say deportation without any court hearing is acceptable. So on the other side "just letting them all stay here forever" is also an unacceptable solution. So what then? There's no acceptable solution we are just screwed?
- lcnPylGDnU4H9OF 1y ago> So on the other side "just letting them all stay here forever" is also an unacceptable solution. This is a false dichotomy and a false equivalence. I’ll let you figure out what that means.
- aydyn 1y agono need I know what those things mean.
- ImPostingOnHN 1y agoIf "just letting them all stay here forever" is an unacceptable solution, then "send millions of people who are here legally or illegally to gulags forever" is an even less acceptable one.
- sorcerer-mar 1y agoOh in that case, I have a solution! We simply deport anyone who makes the argument he's making, then there's no more problem. Wait just a minute... that's not a valid solution under our laws at all!
- aydyn 1y agoYou don't get to decide what constitutes "American interests." [sic]
- sorcerer-mar 1y agoWhat
- aydyn 1y agoYou dont recognize your very own words?
- sorcerer-mar 1y ago> Have you ever used copilot? Its Garbage with a capital G [sic] Haha! Gotcha! You don't recognize your own words?! Oh no I do, but my words made sense in the context I wrote them. They don't make sense here. It turns out words have meanings, and you can't generally copy/paste little substrings from one conversation into another haphazardly. Feel free to connect the dots between what I said and your response, if you'd like.
- aydyn 1y agoOh yes words have meaning, some people can understand them.
- sorcerer-mar 1y agoI guess I'll just assume there was no connection to be drawn. It's truly amazing how all the "curious" "just asking questions" types cannot get literally 3 exchanges into a conversation without short circuiting.