I suppose you are right, but we may not say "it has been widely known". Lots of us who read HN come from the the software side and we coders often hand wave on

I suppose you are right, but we may not say "it has been widely known". Lots of us who read HN come from the the software side and we coders often hand wave on these topics when shooting the breeze -- much like how a casual car enthusiast might not imagine it was possible for a 6-cylinder engine to have more more horsepower than a V8.