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grain and 24fps and widescreen trigger certain contextual emotions around the movie-watching experience. remove them and your brain contextualizes the video ve

by sneak 1y ago

grain and 24fps and widescreen trigger certain contextual emotions around the movie-watching experience. remove them and your brain contextualizes the video very differently. this is likely the result of ~100 years of film-based filmmaking and projection. hell, we still call it filmmaking.

UltraSane 1y ago
Yes, it is only the result of familiarity. We could gradually increase the frame rate of movies made in a year by 1 fps per year and then no one would even notice after 24 years every new movie would be 48fps.
- sneak 1y ago
  No, it would take a lot longer than that. You’re fighting 100 years of tradition.
  - UltraSane 1y ago
    You would notice 1 fps more per year?
    - sneak 1y ago
      no i will be watching 24fps films for the remainder of my life, which may be 40 more years. if all new films went up 1fps per year i would still go out to the movies in 20 years and be like “wtf is this crap?” it would take a generation or more to eradicate this cultural context. casablanca is never going to be in 48fps.
      - UltraSane 1y ago
        That is a very very silly attitude.
        sneak 1y ago
        It’s not an attitude, it’s the reality of the world we live in. Cinema and film has shaped our society for a century.
        UltraSane 1y ago
        No. You are no different than someone refusing to watch color movies because they were in black and white initially.
        sneak 1y ago
        Where did I refuse to watch anything? No amount of this attitude is going to make Casablanca or The Godfather or Pulp Fiction or Infinity War or Star Wars or Fight Club or 2001 or Top Gun be in any framerate other than 24fps. If they start making films in higher frame rates today, that won’t change that fact. Do you think people are going to stop watching films from the 50s, 60s, 70s, 80s, 90s, and 2000s? It would take a concerted effort, beginning now, at least an entire generation (30-50 years) to remove or reduce the cultural impact of the 24 frames per second widescreen tradition. No such effort is presently underway, because higher framerates don’t help movies’ visual storytelling, and they may hurt it. The Hobbit was Peter Jackson’s attempt. It went nowhere. https://gizmodo.com/the-hobbit-an-unexpected-masterclass-in-why-48-fps-fai-5969817 https://gizmodo.com/the-hobbit-an-unexpected-masterclass-in-...
        UltraSane 1y ago
        "no i will be watching 24fps films for the remainder of my life, which may be 40 more years. if all new films went up 1fps per year i would still go out to the movies in 20 years and be like “wtf is this crap?”" The Hobbit looked great at 48fps. Higher FPS failed only because reactionary people as yourself irrationally rejected it because "it looks weird!". You need to understand that 24fps is a compromise chosen to save film. It is the bare minimum frame rate to have smooth motion under most but not all circumstances. It really hurts action films because anything moving too fast has excessive motion blur.

by sneak 1y ago

UltraSane 1y ago

Yes, it is only the result of familiarity. We could gradually increase the frame rate of movies made in a year by 1 fps per year and then no one would even notice after 24 years every new movie would be 48fps.

sneak 1y ago
No, it would take a lot longer than that. You’re fighting 100 years of tradition.
- UltraSane 1y ago
  You would notice 1 fps more per year?
  - sneak 1y ago
    no i will be watching 24fps films for the remainder of my life, which may be 40 more years. if all new films went up 1fps per year i would still go out to the movies in 20 years and be like “wtf is this crap?” it would take a generation or more to eradicate this cultural context. casablanca is never going to be in 48fps.
    - UltraSane 1y ago
      That is a very very silly attitude.
      - sneak 1y ago
        It’s not an attitude, it’s the reality of the world we live in. Cinema and film has shaped our society for a century.
        UltraSane 1y ago
        No. You are no different than someone refusing to watch color movies because they were in black and white initially.
        sneak 1y ago
        Where did I refuse to watch anything? No amount of this attitude is going to make Casablanca or The Godfather or Pulp Fiction or Infinity War or Star Wars or Fight Club or 2001 or Top Gun be in any framerate other than 24fps. If they start making films in higher frame rates today, that won’t change that fact. Do you think people are going to stop watching films from the 50s, 60s, 70s, 80s, 90s, and 2000s? It would take a concerted effort, beginning now, at least an entire generation (30-50 years) to remove or reduce the cultural impact of the 24 frames per second widescreen tradition. No such effort is presently underway, because higher framerates don’t help movies’ visual storytelling, and they may hurt it. The Hobbit was Peter Jackson’s attempt. It went nowhere. https://gizmodo.com/the-hobbit-an-unexpected-masterclass-in-why-48-fps-fai-5969817 https://gizmodo.com/the-hobbit-an-unexpected-masterclass-in-...
        UltraSane 1y ago
        "no i will be watching 24fps films for the remainder of my life, which may be 40 more years. if all new films went up 1fps per year i would still go out to the movies in 20 years and be like “wtf is this crap?”" The Hobbit looked great at 48fps. Higher FPS failed only because reactionary people as yourself irrationally rejected it because "it looks weird!". You need to understand that 24fps is a compromise chosen to save film. It is the bare minimum frame rate to have smooth motion under most but not all circumstances. It really hurts action films because anything moving too fast has excessive motion blur.