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I lost count of the logical fallacies in this post. > Universities were initally founded as "repressive" regimes as the first universities started as theologic

I lost count of the logical fallacies in this post. > Universities were initally founded as "repressive" regimes as the first universities started as theological schools. Genetic fallacy. > Using your logic I guess we don't have any great universities in the US or any great universities in europe. All universities exist in societies and every society has "repression" of some kind of another. Non sequitur. More repressive regimes will create more things that you cannot say. It's not black and white; there is a continuum between "more free" and "more repressive", and where you are on it really matters. The rest of the post is just more flawed logic that I don't have the energy to trace through.

hearsathought 1y ago
Please study some philosophy and logic because cavalierly using "logical fallacies" incorrectly. It's not genetic fallacy. It's not non sequitur. I'm surprised you didn't shout "whataboutism". I've found that political activists tend to use "logical fallacy" to shout down uncomfortable truths. It's almost a reflex with you people. > It's not black and white; there is a continuum between "more free" and "more repressive", and where you are on it really matters. Oh dear. "Black and white" argument. Did the original commenter mention degrees? Is china burning people at the stake yet? Maybe then they'll produce a galileo or copernicus. > The rest of the post is just more flawed logic that I don't have the energy to trace through. Why not just write, "my political beliefs makes me angry that someone points out obvious truth and I felt the need to mindlessly attack with "logical fallacy" arguments. The greatest scientists, thinkers, philosophers, etc of our time came from repressive regimes. Almost all of them more repressive than the current chinese regime. Also, the article ( the portion that was available ) was about scientific research. Pretty sure the chinese government isn't "repressing" scientific research. But neither you nor the original commenter read it because you read "china" in the article and immediately went into political agenda mode. Right? I'm not saying "china good, west bad" or vice versa. I'm just pointing out that "repression" doesn't necessarily mean universities are good or bad. Especially when it comes to science.

hearsathought 1y ago

Please study some philosophy and logic because cavalierly using "logical fallacies" incorrectly. It's not genetic fallacy. It's not non sequitur. I'm surprised you didn't shout "whataboutism". I've found that political activists tend to use "logical fallacy" to shout down uncomfortable truths. It's almost a reflex with you people. > It's not black and white; there is a continuum between "more free" and "more repressive", and where you are on it really matters. Oh dear. "Black and white" argument. Did the original commenter mention degrees? Is china burning people at the stake yet? Maybe then they'll produce a galileo or copernicus. > The rest of the post is just more flawed logic that I don't have the energy to trace through. Why not just write, "my political beliefs makes me angry that someone points out obvious truth and I felt the need to mindlessly attack with "logical fallacy" arguments. The greatest scientists, thinkers, philosophers, etc of our time came from repressive regimes. Almost all of them more repressive than the current chinese regime. Also, the article ( the portion that was available ) was about scientific research. Pretty sure the chinese government isn't "repressing" scientific research. But neither you nor the original commenter read it because you read "china" in the article and immediately went into political agenda mode. Right? I'm not saying "china good, west bad" or vice versa. I'm just pointing out that "repression" doesn't necessarily mean universities are good or bad. Especially when it comes to science.