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It's not. That's not what I meant or said. I said not all projects allow for getting status ahead of time. This is a nice way of saying that some people just w
by kaashif 1y ago
It's not. That's not what I meant or said. I said not all projects allow for getting status ahead of time.
This is a nice way of saying that some people just won't tell you what they're up to async, you have to wring information out of them synchronously. They're just bad at communicating.
On a well functioning team I can rely on people just reporting status themselves when something relevant happens and reaching out for help. But some people just don't do that, especially people from other teams, departments, etc.
- coldtea 1y ago>This is a nice way of saying that some people just won't tell you what they're up to async, you have to wring information out of them synchronously. Like, you explicitly ask them in an IM and they don't tell you? Not telling you on their own, I can understand. If the former happens though, you have bigger problems, that asking on a real-life meeting wont solve.
- smeej 1y agoSeriously. This sounds like, "I can't manage my direct report, so I need to waste the time of everybody else on the team just so the little punk realizes he can't hide forever." A team meeting should not be the go-to solution for "Bob is bad at communicating"!
- kaashif 1y agoIt appears you didn't read my comment, here's the relevant part: > But some people just don't do that, especially people from other teams Hope this helps.
- smeej 1y agoOh I read it. If you're the manager, YOUR job is to figure out how to get the information from the people who owe you a report, not weaponize my presence at a meeting to ferret out people you can't manage to reach. But honestly the condescending tone of this whole exchange tells me everything I need it to about why you struggle to get information out of people.
- kaashif 1y agoOkay, well, if you read my comment saying that sometimes meeting with people outside the team is useful, then you start writing about how I'm wasting the time of people _inside_ my team, then I must have miscommunicated something. You're reading things into what I'm saying that aren't there. My job is to defend my direct reports from having their time wasted and clear blockers for them. Sometimes, yeah, this means meeting with people to ferret them out. I'm not weaponizing anyone's presence at a meeting except mine.