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by Tepix 1y ago

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voidUpdate 1y ago
Is that per capita or total?
cess11 1y ago
In the early nineties Andrew L. Shapiro wrote an entire book on this theme: https://www.amazon.com/Were-Number-One-Stands-Falls/dp/0679738932 https://www.amazon.com/Were-Number-One-Stands-Falls/dp/06797...
Ray20 1y ago
> #1 among high income countries in Cardiovascular disease (CVD) mortality, drug overdose deaths, Deaths from violence and accidents, Infant mortality, Obesity-related mortality. It's all originates from each person's decisions. If a person wants to pay attention to their lifestyle and health, then in the US he will get one of the best results in the parameters you listed. That is just a fact. And if we want to maximize these parameters among everyone, we need a ultratotalitarian government that will put all the people into concentration camps where they will work under threat of execution in the open air and eat a specially designed low-calorie diet. > It also has its lowest-ever World Happiness Rankings. Yeas, and North Korea has the highest. > The U.S. is currently leading in global declines in reputation, trust, happiness, and perceived positive influence. And that's good thing. For decades US has been doing atrocities all over the world, to the approving cries of other Western countries. So the only problem with US declines in reputation, trust, happiness, and perceived positive influence I see is that this should have happened decades earlier
- zbentley 1y ago
  > If a person wants to pay attention to their lifestyle and health, then in the US he will get one of the best results in the parameters you listed. That is just a fact. Is it? What are some obstacles to a similarly committed person attaining health/lifestyle benefits in other developed countries? What are the factors uniquely provided by the US that make this “fact” true? Are there factors in the US working against good outcomes for committed people?
  - Ray20 1y ago
    > What are some obstacles to a similarly committed person attaining health/lifestyle benefits in other developed countries? Poverty, underdeveloped medicine, less variety of relevant goods and services
- sham1 1y ago
  > > #1 among high income countries in Cardiovascular disease (CVD) mortality, drug overdose deaths, Deaths from violence and accidents, Infant mortality, Obesity-related mortality. > > It's all originates from each person's decisions. If a person wants to pay attention to their lifestyle and health, then in the US he will get one of the best results in the parameters you listed. That is just a fact. If it is a fact, you should be able to back it up. > And if we want to maximize these parameters among everyone, we need a ultratotalitarian government that will put all the people into concentration camps where they will work under threat of execution in the open air and eat a specially designed low-calorie diet. Or the government could actually regulate things like food additives instead of just going with whatever industry lobbyists are saying. Sure, lobbying is of course a thing here as well, but clearly there are still differences there. Hell, things like infrastructure funding could be used to encourage things like walkability which also helps with the health and quality of life of the population, but alas. > > It also has its lowest-ever World Happiness Rankings. > > Yeas, and North Korea has the highest. No, Finland has the highest. North Korea is not even ranked in the World Happiness Report. > > The U.S. is currently leading in global declines in reputation, trust, happiness, and perceived positive influence. > > And that's good thing. For decades US has been doing atrocities all over the world, to the approving cries of other Western countries. So the only problem with US declines in reputation, trust, happiness, and perceived positive influence I see is that this should have happened decades earlier While I am sympathetic to this line of thinking as a European myself, the current way this is going on over in the US just looks a bit silly. Basically just going out of its way to shed any remaining goodwill and soft power because... what, exactly?
throwawayoldie 1y ago
> #1 among high income countries in Cardiovascular disease (CVD) mortality, drug overdose deaths, Deaths from violence and accidents, Infant mortality, Obesity-related mortality. ...and also #1 in healthcare costs, which just adds an expensive insult to multiple injuries.
southernplaces7 1y ago
So the U.S is number one in several largely irrelevant and in any case partly ambiguous rankings of X and Y, and this is your counterpoint to the very hard facts of it still being the world's richest, largest, most dominant economic and political power, and continuing to stay that way for the foreseeable future due to how hard it is for any other major country to just magically supplant such positions? The quality of reasoned political and economic debate on this site, so full of self-congratulatingly intelligent people, continues to be generally absurd, deplorable and full of cliched foolishness passing for opinion.
tomhow 1y ago
Please don't perpetuate or escalate nationalistic flamewar here. It's against several guidelines. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

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by Tepix 1y ago

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voidUpdate 1y ago

Is that per capita or total?

cess11 1y ago

In the early nineties Andrew L. Shapiro wrote an entire book on this theme: https://www.amazon.com/Were-Number-One-Stands-Falls/dp/0679738932 https://www.amazon.com/Were-Number-One-Stands-Falls/dp/06797...

Ray20 1y ago

> #1 among high income countries in Cardiovascular disease (CVD) mortality, drug overdose deaths, Deaths from violence and accidents, Infant mortality, Obesity-related mortality. It's all originates from each person's decisions. If a person wants to pay attention to their lifestyle and health, then in the US he will get one of the best results in the parameters you listed. That is just a fact. And if we want to maximize these parameters among everyone, we need a ultratotalitarian government that will put all the people into concentration camps where they will work under threat of execution in the open air and eat a specially designed low-calorie diet. > It also has its lowest-ever World Happiness Rankings. Yeas, and North Korea has the highest. > The U.S. is currently leading in global declines in reputation, trust, happiness, and perceived positive influence. And that's good thing. For decades US has been doing atrocities all over the world, to the approving cries of other Western countries. So the only problem with US declines in reputation, trust, happiness, and perceived positive influence I see is that this should have happened decades earlier

zbentley 1y ago
> If a person wants to pay attention to their lifestyle and health, then in the US he will get one of the best results in the parameters you listed. That is just a fact. Is it? What are some obstacles to a similarly committed person attaining health/lifestyle benefits in other developed countries? What are the factors uniquely provided by the US that make this “fact” true? Are there factors in the US working against good outcomes for committed people?
- Ray20 1y ago
  > What are some obstacles to a similarly committed person attaining health/lifestyle benefits in other developed countries? Poverty, underdeveloped medicine, less variety of relevant goods and services
sham1 1y ago
> > #1 among high income countries in Cardiovascular disease (CVD) mortality, drug overdose deaths, Deaths from violence and accidents, Infant mortality, Obesity-related mortality. > > It's all originates from each person's decisions. If a person wants to pay attention to their lifestyle and health, then in the US he will get one of the best results in the parameters you listed. That is just a fact. If it is a fact, you should be able to back it up. > And if we want to maximize these parameters among everyone, we need a ultratotalitarian government that will put all the people into concentration camps where they will work under threat of execution in the open air and eat a specially designed low-calorie diet. Or the government could actually regulate things like food additives instead of just going with whatever industry lobbyists are saying. Sure, lobbying is of course a thing here as well, but clearly there are still differences there. Hell, things like infrastructure funding could be used to encourage things like walkability which also helps with the health and quality of life of the population, but alas. > > It also has its lowest-ever World Happiness Rankings. > > Yeas, and North Korea has the highest. No, Finland has the highest. North Korea is not even ranked in the World Happiness Report. > > The U.S. is currently leading in global declines in reputation, trust, happiness, and perceived positive influence. > > And that's good thing. For decades US has been doing atrocities all over the world, to the approving cries of other Western countries. So the only problem with US declines in reputation, trust, happiness, and perceived positive influence I see is that this should have happened decades earlier While I am sympathetic to this line of thinking as a European myself, the current way this is going on over in the US just looks a bit silly. Basically just going out of its way to shed any remaining goodwill and soft power because... what, exactly?

throwawayoldie 1y ago

southernplaces7 1y ago

So the U.S is number one in several largely irrelevant and in any case partly ambiguous rankings of X and Y, and this is your counterpoint to the very hard facts of it still being the world's richest, largest, most dominant economic and political power, and continuing to stay that way for the foreseeable future due to how hard it is for any other major country to just magically supplant such positions? The quality of reasoned political and economic debate on this site, so full of self-congratulatingly intelligent people, continues to be generally absurd, deplorable and full of cliched foolishness passing for opinion.

tomhow 1y ago

Please don't perpetuate or escalate nationalistic flamewar here. It's against several guidelines. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html