I learnt Quaker silent worship about 30 years ago and the practice of centering down which I still practice despite turning atheist many years ago. More recent

I learnt Quaker silent worship about 30 years ago and the practice of centering down which I still practice despite turning atheist many years ago. More recently did a mindfulness session, and was quietly surprised that I already knew the forms, just without emphasis on the self (breathing, body position and all the muscle aches, itches, etc).