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What is wrong with Elon? All I've seen are hit pieces peddling misinformation. If we were to look at this critically, I think Tesla just misplayed the market a

What is wrong with Elon? All I've seen are hit pieces peddling misinformation. If we were to look at this critically, I think Tesla just misplayed the market after covid. Their cars are too expensive and too premium, which is what people wanted during covid but as the market becomes more competitive people are looking for more affordable options

surgical_fire 1y ago
> What is wrong with Elon? If in the Year of our Lord 2025 you have to ask this question, I don't think any of the mutiple things I could link here would convince you otherwise.
- guywithahat 1y ago
  If you think this is obvious I worry you're deep into conspiracies. I would respond more in depth but I'm not sure what conspiracies you're personally devoted to
  - surgical_fire 1y ago
    > conspiracies You keep repeating that word. I don't think it means what you think it means. But by all means, entertain me. What "conspiracies" do people "devote" themselves against Elon?
    - dzhiurgis 1y ago
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      - detaro 1y ago
        Weird, I didn't know the media could fabricate things Elon does on the website he owns, is the cybersecurity at X that bad they can freely impersonate him?
        guywithahat 1y ago
        https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1934879919059947788 https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1934879919059947788 I think there's a difference between "I once did a drug" and "drug abuse"
        dzhiurgis 1y ago
        Love how this rather old thread got brigaded minutes after posting. Tells me everything I need to know.
      - surgical_fire 1y ago
        I can't speak much about his drug use, but not really the reason I dislike him. While I don't care much about his political affiliations (not really the reason I already thought he was a shit person), there are some facts about that: 1 - He did a nazi salute on camera. You may argue that he was joking or being edgy, but you can't deny facts. 2 - He actually tried to influence German elections in favor of AfD, which is a far-right parties with some damning neo-nazi connections. 3 - He constantly replicates extreme far right ideas on his social media platform. Does this mean Elon is a Nazi? Perhaps not, but he has very little problems in associating himself with those that espouse tenets of that ideology. I think he is just a retarded buffoon that happens to be extremely rich. I always rolled my eyes back when the mainstream media treated him as some kind of visionary genius, and now that it stopped he chases some crowd that still listens what he has to say.
  - JumpCrisscross 1y ago
    I genuinely admire Elon and hope he will get the help he needs. But DOGE, the needless and stupid foray into partisan politics, the drug abuse, the breaking of contracts until he had to be sued at Twitter, the fraternising with white nationalists, the Nazi salute (and lack of an apology)…these are not things people want to associate themselves with. The top-selling car colours are white, black and grey. Most people, including those with sports cars, don’t want to drive an opinionated car day to day. Even if you agree with Elon’s politics, you may not want everyone in town to know that. > Tesla just misplayed the market after covid. Their cars are too expensive and too premium, which is what people wanted during covid People have wanted cheaper cars since Tesla was founded. It’s why Musk won credibility by promising a $25,000 EV. Then he built the Cybertruck. And instead of recognising that as a failure, Musk doubled down on nonsense, first with a self-driving car with a regulatory cross-section the size of a planet, and then with a semi-focussed robotics push. Tesla misplayed the market and continues misplaying the market. Musk’s politics now guarantee that it is a hated brand on the right and the left, which creates issues for his plans that require government support.
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  - daveguy 1y ago
    Seems more like you are deep into a twitter propaganda feed. We all saw Musk's Nazi salutes, and incompetent fuckups in government. Also, he has been lying about the proximity of actual FSD for at least a decade. At least he stopped even trying to lie about a $25k car.

surgical_fire 1y ago

> What is wrong with Elon? If in the Year of our Lord 2025 you have to ask this question, I don't think any of the mutiple things I could link here would convince you otherwise.

guywithahat 1y ago
If you think this is obvious I worry you're deep into conspiracies. I would respond more in depth but I'm not sure what conspiracies you're personally devoted to
- surgical_fire 1y ago
  > conspiracies You keep repeating that word. I don't think it means what you think it means. But by all means, entertain me. What "conspiracies" do people "devote" themselves against Elon?
  - dzhiurgis 1y ago
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    - detaro 1y ago
      Weird, I didn't know the media could fabricate things Elon does on the website he owns, is the cybersecurity at X that bad they can freely impersonate him?
      - guywithahat 1y ago
        https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1934879919059947788 https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1934879919059947788 I think there's a difference between "I once did a drug" and "drug abuse"
      - dzhiurgis 1y ago
        Love how this rather old thread got brigaded minutes after posting. Tells me everything I need to know.
    - surgical_fire 1y ago
      I can't speak much about his drug use, but not really the reason I dislike him. While I don't care much about his political affiliations (not really the reason I already thought he was a shit person), there are some facts about that: 1 - He did a nazi salute on camera. You may argue that he was joking or being edgy, but you can't deny facts. 2 - He actually tried to influence German elections in favor of AfD, which is a far-right parties with some damning neo-nazi connections. 3 - He constantly replicates extreme far right ideas on his social media platform. Does this mean Elon is a Nazi? Perhaps not, but he has very little problems in associating himself with those that espouse tenets of that ideology. I think he is just a retarded buffoon that happens to be extremely rich. I always rolled my eyes back when the mainstream media treated him as some kind of visionary genius, and now that it stopped he chases some crowd that still listens what he has to say.
- JumpCrisscross 1y ago
  I genuinely admire Elon and hope he will get the help he needs. But DOGE, the needless and stupid foray into partisan politics, the drug abuse, the breaking of contracts until he had to be sued at Twitter, the fraternising with white nationalists, the Nazi salute (and lack of an apology)…these are not things people want to associate themselves with. The top-selling car colours are white, black and grey. Most people, including those with sports cars, don’t want to drive an opinionated car day to day. Even if you agree with Elon’s politics, you may not want everyone in town to know that. > Tesla just misplayed the market after covid. Their cars are too expensive and too premium, which is what people wanted during covid People have wanted cheaper cars since Tesla was founded. It’s why Musk won credibility by promising a $25,000 EV. Then he built the Cybertruck. And instead of recognising that as a failure, Musk doubled down on nonsense, first with a self-driving car with a regulatory cross-section the size of a planet, and then with a semi-focussed robotics push. Tesla misplayed the market and continues misplaying the market. Musk’s politics now guarantee that it is a hated brand on the right and the left, which creates issues for his plans that require government support.
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- daveguy 1y ago
  Seems more like you are deep into a twitter propaganda feed. We all saw Musk's Nazi salutes, and incompetent fuckups in government. Also, he has been lying about the proximity of actual FSD for at least a decade. At least he stopped even trying to lie about a $25k car.