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I'm not sure what you mean by Tesla's EV fantasy being a bust? In the last decade they've got from delivering 75k cars a year to delivering 1.8m cars a year. It

I'm not sure what you mean by Tesla's EV fantasy being a bust? In the last decade they've got from delivering 75k cars a year to delivering 1.8m cars a year. It's not a fantasy, it happened. Now, the stock price isn't based on the reality of the fundamental economics of a car company, but they didn't fail with EVs, they succeeded.

cbeach 1y ago
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- justinrubek 1y ago
  Your theory is just not correct, particularly given that Biden and Harris are right-wing politicians.
  - omnimus 1y ago
    I guess (in US) left means left of Trump. Which Biden/Harris very slightly are.
- organsnyder 1y ago
  This isn't about ideology. It's about Musk behaving like a toddler. No way I'd make such a significant purchase from a company led by someone that volatile.
- ceejayoz 1y ago
  > I blame the Left for being completely intolerant of anyone and any company that doesn't strictly adhere to their ideology. This is deeply, deeply silly to assert in 2025 as the right attempts to shut hobble the Ivy League, the NIH, prominent public policy law firms, green card holders writing op-eds, etc.
  - homefree 1y ago
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    - ceejayoz 1y ago
      > People have a warped sense of values. Indeed. You've evidenced a disturbingly narrow interpretation of the First Amendment, for example.
    - lesuorac 1y ago
      Musk's companies literally exist because Obama pushed for EV credits which allows Tesla to make any money. Obama pushed for Commercial Crew Contract which allowed SpaceX to get Gov. contracts. And Trump is trying to undo that lol ... Also there's like 300 million people in the USA. You could definitely find at least a dozen "left" serial killers. Doesn't make it representative of registered democrats.
- kashunstva 1y ago
  > Shame it all got so political. “The Left” bears sole responsibility for this? I don’t think so. If some of us find this man some kind of a Nazi and genuinely creepy, we have a named syndrome now? Musk chose to visibly support causes I personally find repugnant. I’m not intolerant; he can do what he wants within the confines of the law. And surely given his much-vaunted genius, he must realize that symbols are important to people whether the actions they take on account of them are rational from a purely economic point of view. The progress he made on electric vehicles is laudable. The real shame here is his lack of self-control to focus on his business.
- fckgw 1y ago
  > Shame it all got so political. I don't blame Musk for that - he is just a CEO who is open about his politics. I blame the Left for being completely intolerant of anyone and any company that doesn't strictly adhere to their ideology. You don't blame the man who did a Nazi salute on stage at a political rally?
- legacynl 1y ago
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rsynnott 1y ago
The fantasy was that Tesla would somehow become the only electric car maker, or indeed the only car maker. This was obviously stupid, but it was the only way that the valuation would make any sort of sense.

cbeach 1y ago

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justinrubek 1y ago
Your theory is just not correct, particularly given that Biden and Harris are right-wing politicians.
- omnimus 1y ago
  I guess (in US) left means left of Trump. Which Biden/Harris very slightly are.
organsnyder 1y ago
This isn't about ideology. It's about Musk behaving like a toddler. No way I'd make such a significant purchase from a company led by someone that volatile.
ceejayoz 1y ago
> I blame the Left for being completely intolerant of anyone and any company that doesn't strictly adhere to their ideology. This is deeply, deeply silly to assert in 2025 as the right attempts to shut hobble the Ivy League, the NIH, prominent public policy law firms, green card holders writing op-eds, etc.
- homefree 1y ago
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  - ceejayoz 1y ago
    > People have a warped sense of values. Indeed. You've evidenced a disturbingly narrow interpretation of the First Amendment, for example.
  - lesuorac 1y ago
    Musk's companies literally exist because Obama pushed for EV credits which allows Tesla to make any money. Obama pushed for Commercial Crew Contract which allowed SpaceX to get Gov. contracts. And Trump is trying to undo that lol ... Also there's like 300 million people in the USA. You could definitely find at least a dozen "left" serial killers. Doesn't make it representative of registered democrats.
kashunstva 1y ago
> Shame it all got so political. “The Left” bears sole responsibility for this? I don’t think so. If some of us find this man some kind of a Nazi and genuinely creepy, we have a named syndrome now? Musk chose to visibly support causes I personally find repugnant. I’m not intolerant; he can do what he wants within the confines of the law. And surely given his much-vaunted genius, he must realize that symbols are important to people whether the actions they take on account of them are rational from a purely economic point of view. The progress he made on electric vehicles is laudable. The real shame here is his lack of self-control to focus on his business.
fckgw 1y ago
> Shame it all got so political. I don't blame Musk for that - he is just a CEO who is open about his politics. I blame the Left for being completely intolerant of anyone and any company that doesn't strictly adhere to their ideology. You don't blame the man who did a Nazi salute on stage at a political rally?
legacynl 1y ago
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rsynnott 1y ago

The fantasy was that Tesla would somehow become the only electric car maker, or indeed the only car maker. This was obviously stupid, but it was the only way that the valuation would make any sort of sense.