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Thanks for all that information, I agree with you that the EU legislation is very broad. In my opinion, this justifies or motivates the inclusion of the ban in

Thanks for all that information, I agree with you that the EU legislation is very broad. In my opinion, this justifies or motivates the inclusion of the ban in the EU.

hammock 1y ago
What happens if you ignore overly broad EU regulations? Does your home country observe the EU’s violation of its sovereignty and throw you in a home country jail? Does Brussels throw you in an EU jail? What country hosts the EU jail? Not to sound too snarky (just a little snarky), I’m just curious how it all works.
- coliveira 1y ago
  As always, EU and USA courts will act as if they had jurisdiction over the rest of the world and motivate bans and similar measures against other countries.
- bee_rider 1y ago
  Realistically lots of multi-national companies have an EU presence, so concerns about “violating sovereignty” are sorta moot. Huawei probably wants to do business in the EU which requires following EU law. As an aside: in general a sovereign country can do whatever they want in their own territory, this includes the right of the country to bind itself to treaties. So in your hypothetical, > Does your home country observe the EU’s violation of its sovereignty and throw you in a home country jail? This doesn’t look like a violation of sovereignty to me; the non-EU has decided to enforce an EU law. Why? I don’t know, maybe it makes business easier for the multinational companies of the non-EU country. Countries can also do things like apply secondary sanctions to an entity. So, again hypothetically, the EU doesn’t need to be able to enforce a ruling against you. They can make you toxic to anyone who wants to do business in the EU.
- lawlessone 1y ago
  >What happens if you ignore overly broad EU regulations? Not much It's usually up to the the member states to implement the EU regulation. As you can see from Hungary with Orban in recent years though the EU's response is slow and lacking. When there is consensus things can move a lot faster though.
- baobun 1y ago
  You could lose government contracts, get sanctioned, get banned. Already happening to Huawei and presumably the EU market is significant to them.
- Mars008 1y ago
  Arrest of Telegram's cofounder in France is an example of EU laws and enforcement.

Thanks for all that information, I agree with you that the EU legislation is very broad. In my opinion, this justifies or motivates the inclusion of the ban in the EU.

hammock 1y ago

What happens if you ignore overly broad EU regulations? Does your home country observe the EU’s violation of its sovereignty and throw you in a home country jail? Does Brussels throw you in an EU jail? What country hosts the EU jail? Not to sound too snarky (just a little snarky), I’m just curious how it all works.

coliveira 1y ago
As always, EU and USA courts will act as if they had jurisdiction over the rest of the world and motivate bans and similar measures against other countries.
bee_rider 1y ago
Realistically lots of multi-national companies have an EU presence, so concerns about “violating sovereignty” are sorta moot. Huawei probably wants to do business in the EU which requires following EU law. As an aside: in general a sovereign country can do whatever they want in their own territory, this includes the right of the country to bind itself to treaties. So in your hypothetical, > Does your home country observe the EU’s violation of its sovereignty and throw you in a home country jail? This doesn’t look like a violation of sovereignty to me; the non-EU has decided to enforce an EU law. Why? I don’t know, maybe it makes business easier for the multinational companies of the non-EU country. Countries can also do things like apply secondary sanctions to an entity. So, again hypothetically, the EU doesn’t need to be able to enforce a ruling against you. They can make you toxic to anyone who wants to do business in the EU.
lawlessone 1y ago
>What happens if you ignore overly broad EU regulations? Not much It's usually up to the the member states to implement the EU regulation. As you can see from Hungary with Orban in recent years though the EU's response is slow and lacking. When there is consensus things can move a lot faster though.
baobun 1y ago
You could lose government contracts, get sanctioned, get banned. Already happening to Huawei and presumably the EU market is significant to them.
Mars008 1y ago
Arrest of Telegram's cofounder in France is an example of EU laws and enforcement.