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Telepathy is on its way. Next step they just skip the conversion of brain signals to words and just directly send the signals to another brain. But I think some
by pingou 1y ago
Telepathy is on its way. Next step they just skip the conversion of brain signals to words and just directly send the signals to another brain. But I think some conversion/translation would still be necessary.
- mettamage 1y agoThe year is 2100. The brain of the Eurasian president got hacked by the Antartic Federation. While humans have hard coded a moral code since birth, there are illegally born babies that do not undergo brain modification treatment. Moreover, the South Pacific Whale Society has no moral code. We should’ve never implanted this stuff into whales. The world will never be the same again.
- thrance 1y agoI think it would be deserved if whales started bombing our streets.
- serf 1y agoGhost in the Shellfish. I'll see myself out.
- icoder 1y agoSo Long, and Thanks for All the Krill
- coldtea 1y ago>The year is 2100. The brain of the Eurasian president got hacked by the Antartic Federation. They'd stil have a president? They would probably already have a dictator that controls everybody through a mind-reading police state...
- alluro2 1y agoNo, that's the Republic of Murica, where Trump The Third is a BDFL.
- coldtea 1y agoHardly better in Eurasia
- moffkalast 1y agoThe war with Eastasia and Oceania took a toll...
- gpm 1y agoLots of dictatorships use democratic language. See Putin, the President of the Russian Federation. Or the Democratic People's Republic of Korea.
- lambdaone 1y agoOr they are a hive mind, like Alastair Reynolds' Conjoiners.
- Cthulhu_ 1y agoI think (futurology / science fiction) that they will make some kind of brain link, but there won't be any translations happening in between, just raw brain signals from one to the other, like an extra sensory input; there won't be any encoding or data that can be translated to speech or images, but the connected brains will be able to learn to comprehend and send the signals to / from each other and learn to communicate that way.
- falcor84 1y agoThat sort of connection would be very susceptible to psychic attacks - I'm thinking of the telepaths in Babylon 5, being trained for offensive capabilities, as well as just plain old spam advertising. So while "defaulting to trust" is often considered societally useful, I believe that it would be better for everyone if cross-brain messages are sent in a format that can be analyzed (and entirely blocked) by a filter on the receiving side.
- z3t4 1y agoWe are so different, but I guess with a lot of training we could interpret each others thoughts. A first step would be to record your own thoughts and then replay them in order to see if you experience the same thing you did when the thoughts where recorded. It's possible that our brain is constantly re-configuring so that even your own recorded thoughts would make no sense.
- aspenmayer 1y agoThis is sort of explored in the film Strange Days, which is probably not very well known generally but perhaps would have a large fan base on HN. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strange_Days_(film) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strange_Days_(film) Had no idea til I looked it up just now that James Cameron did the story, of Avatar, which shares a lot of tech influences with Strange Days. They could even be in the same cinematic universe, though many years apart.
- voidUpdate 1y agoI think the main problem with that is that different people thing in different ways. I think in full sentences and 3D images, whereas other people might think without images at all. How do you translate that?
- msgodel 1y agoYou could skip a lot of stuff by training a transformer on some kind of neural embeddings. You probably get effective FTL communication and limited immortality that way.
- falcor84 1y agoHow did you arrive at FTL? At best we'll have comms at radio transmission speed, right?
- msgodel 1y agoIt's faster than light because your model is already there so no information has to be exchanged.
- throwaway34564 1y agovery cool concept - kind of like an offline inference model of your conscious. You could have periodic (over the wire) sync updates to your real self
- falcor84 1y agoBut isn't it the same sort of FTL and "immortality" that a creator gets from us listening to a downloaded podcast that they prerecorded? To quote Woody Allen: > “I don't want to achieve immortality through my work; I want to achieve immortality through not dying. I don't want to live on in the hearts of my countrymen; I want to live on in my apartment.”
- msgodel 1y agoSeems like a technicality tbh.
- goopypoop 1y agoI look forward to learning that your favourite fruit is AAAARRGGHHHH
- dotancohen 1y agoMaybe he was dictating?
- coldtea 1y agoNext step: techno-slavery
- aspenmayer 1y agoWe’ll probably call it something less on the nose, more euphemistic, almost clinical, medical even. Nerve stapling, perhaps? https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Fridge/SidMeiersAlphaCentauri https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Fridge/SidMeiersAlpha... George Carlin - Euphemisms - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=isMm2vF4uFs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=isMm2vF4uFs
- midtake 1y agoLike the trisolarans
- spinlock_ 1y agoDon't forget the injection of ads for the basic subscription plan, Black Mirror S7/E1 vibes.
- Lapsa 1y agoIt's already here. And likely you are deliberately trying to deny that. Here's a nice little rabbit hole for you: https://pastebin.com/raw/8TQyPKUF https://pastebin.com/raw/8TQyPKUF
- goopypoop 1y agothe scary thing isn't the sci-fi in this stuff, it's that the tech already exists to do the polygraph scam again
- seydor 1y agoNot without ads being injected. But it's a small price to pay for such amazing capabilities
- germinalphrase 1y agoTelepathy, or maybe memory and experience sharing media machine, or maybe humanity id unification device, or maybe flesh robot actualizer, or maybe a looping torture horror show mask. The possibilities are endless!
- dylan604 1y agowould you need an antenna for your brain implant to tx/rx those signals? what shape would that antenna need to be? would it need to be a rigid antenna that would have to stick up out of one's head? would it be a curly pigtail style or straight semi-rigid yet flexible so it could bend when passing through doors like the CB antennas of yesteryear? Could it be very flexible like a cable so you could run it down your back and under your clothing? would your antenna be susceptible to crosstalk, and would that interference come across as new voices in your head? in fact, i wonder what the signalling protocol would be so that the message is only be received by the intended recipient, something like wifi? to that, would someone be able to tune into the spectrum around them and see the metadata of these telepathic signals to see who was talking to whom, when, and for how long. obviously, i'm assuming the actual signals will be encrypted so that these conversations will be private. will the NSA be able to pick up these signals from their satellites and be able to listen in? or will the gov't force backdoors into these communications? i know this might sound conspiratorial, but all of these are valid concerns being dealt with now, and only sound conspiratorial if you've have your head in the sand. these are also questions that startups tend to ignore. look at the IoT market that never considered any potential security issues, and now we have massive bot farms. i know i wouldn't want to be used as a bot because my neural implant manufacture never considered what a hacker might do once they gained access
- lambdaone 1y agoI think you might find that the Teletubbies have already solved this problem, in a variety of different configurations, including the rigid and curly antenna you mention above. The benefits of the circular and triangular configurations are as yet unclear to me, but I'm sure the Voice Trumpets and Sun Baby know what they're doing.