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So much negativity in this thread. I thought we’d be able to celebrate this one. Figma provided an alternative to the evil Adobe empire that was actually better

by habosa 1y ago

So much negativity in this thread. I thought we’d be able to celebrate this one. Figma provided an alternative to the evil Adobe empire that was actually better. It’s powered by some amazing tech built originally by one of the founders. It’s still got a generous free plan. I’m happy the employees will get to cash out.

bigyabai 1y ago
I like Figma. My disappointment is that I know it's a transient tool. I grew up learning Photoshop, a tool which I now never use because it is expensive and neutered. And Sony Vegas, which is also expensive and pointless when free alternatives do the same thing. And now I can add Figma to the list of tools I learned but will likely never touch for even a free project. Which makes me sad! I like it. This business model isn't sustainable for individuals, so they're going to naturally be upset. If the B2B market is more lucrative for Figma then they have every right to optimize for it, but they're going to pay the cost in user goodwill. Many startups go through this process.
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- ChadNauseam 1y ago
  I take uber every day and haven't found it to be "enshittified" (outside of some ads appearing in the app now).
  - KolmogorovComp 1y ago
    The enshittification is definitely happening on the driver-side with wordened working conditions and pay.
  - SturgeonsLaw 1y ago
    It started off enshittified
  - sahila 1y ago
    It's not a big deal but the cars allowed on Uber has worsened. I remember trying to sign up as a driver a few years ago with a 2009 Corolla and being denied because the car was too old and now see cars from then allowed today. Maybe that's the cost of scaling but I find it worse. Also no more Uber pool.
  - arethuza 1y ago
    I like Uber but I was surprised at how bad their mapping is - they get the route to get me home wrong and I've gone through the process of telling them about the mistake in their maps and they just seemed to ignore me.
- biwills 1y ago
  I disagree, many companies are still great even after going public in the last decade: Shopify, Cloudflare, Zoom, Spotify, Roblox, and Coinbase are all notable examples.
  - gherkinnn 1y ago
    Of those I only use Spotify and it pesters me at all hours of the day.
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  - Philpax 1y ago
    "Great" for the majority of these is a stretch. There's no shortage of complaints about how Spotify treats both artists and customers, and Roblox enjoys yearly controversies from how it provides access to and exploits its customer base of children.
  - _AzMoo 1y ago
    I use Zoom and Spotify and both of those have gone downhill dramatically. Spotify to the extend that I really don't use it anymore.
  - p_v_doom 1y ago
    Bruh, Spotify has been absolutely shit, and their practices and push towards AI and completely unusuable suggestions algorithm are making it more and more shit.
diggan 1y ago
> I thought we’d be able to celebrate this one. I mean yeah, it's cool and all that the employees and owners get a pay out, but IPOs are generally bad news for users, and I'm sure I'm not the only Figma user here, so makes sense that people are cautious about something that is usually bad news for them. > Figma provided an alternative to the evil Adobe empire that was actually better That's the crux, because generally IPOs mean that they'll now slowly turn into whatever it was they were supposed to fix. Maybe Figma will be the 1-in-a-billion products that won't suffer that fate, but it's understandable that people are now starting to casually look for alternatives, given most people's experience with IPOs.

by habosa 1y ago

bigyabai 1y ago

I like Figma. My disappointment is that I know it's a transient tool. I grew up learning Photoshop, a tool which I now never use because it is expensive and neutered. And Sony Vegas, which is also expensive and pointless when free alternatives do the same thing. And now I can add Figma to the list of tools I learned but will likely never touch for even a free project. Which makes me sad! I like it. This business model isn't sustainable for individuals, so they're going to naturally be upset. If the B2B market is more lucrative for Figma then they have every right to optimize for it, but they're going to pay the cost in user goodwill. Many startups go through this process.

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ChadNauseam 1y ago
I take uber every day and haven't found it to be "enshittified" (outside of some ads appearing in the app now).
- KolmogorovComp 1y ago
  The enshittification is definitely happening on the driver-side with wordened working conditions and pay.
- SturgeonsLaw 1y ago
  It started off enshittified
- sahila 1y ago
  It's not a big deal but the cars allowed on Uber has worsened. I remember trying to sign up as a driver a few years ago with a 2009 Corolla and being denied because the car was too old and now see cars from then allowed today. Maybe that's the cost of scaling but I find it worse. Also no more Uber pool.
- arethuza 1y ago
  I like Uber but I was surprised at how bad their mapping is - they get the route to get me home wrong and I've gone through the process of telling them about the mistake in their maps and they just seemed to ignore me.
biwills 1y ago
I disagree, many companies are still great even after going public in the last decade: Shopify, Cloudflare, Zoom, Spotify, Roblox, and Coinbase are all notable examples.
- gherkinnn 1y ago
  Of those I only use Spotify and it pesters me at all hours of the day.
  - deleted 1y ago
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- Philpax 1y ago
  "Great" for the majority of these is a stretch. There's no shortage of complaints about how Spotify treats both artists and customers, and Roblox enjoys yearly controversies from how it provides access to and exploits its customer base of children.
- _AzMoo 1y ago
  I use Zoom and Spotify and both of those have gone downhill dramatically. Spotify to the extend that I really don't use it anymore.
- p_v_doom 1y ago
  Bruh, Spotify has been absolutely shit, and their practices and push towards AI and completely unusuable suggestions algorithm are making it more and more shit.

diggan 1y ago

> I thought we’d be able to celebrate this one. I mean yeah, it's cool and all that the employees and owners get a pay out, but IPOs are generally bad news for users, and I'm sure I'm not the only Figma user here, so makes sense that people are cautious about something that is usually bad news for them. > Figma provided an alternative to the evil Adobe empire that was actually better That's the crux, because generally IPOs mean that they'll now slowly turn into whatever it was they were supposed to fix. Maybe Figma will be the 1-in-a-billion products that won't suffer that fate, but it's understandable that people are now starting to casually look for alternatives, given most people's experience with IPOs.