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That was certainly not my intention. Nothing but respect for what they’ve built. Only pointing out that they entered a crowded space that already had “winners”

That was certainly not my intention. Nothing but respect for what they’ve built. Only pointing out that they entered a crowded space that already had “winners” in it, and succeeded.

latexr 1y ago
Except it was not a crowded space. They did a bunch of stuff no one else was (or is) doing right from the start. Being entirely in the browser, real-time collaboration, vector networks…
- virgilp 1y ago
  You can define any space as "not crowded" if you narrow it down enough. That was the point really, they entered a crowded space & re-defined it with their offering.
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  - latexr 1y ago
    > You can define any space as "not crowded" if you narrow it down enough. I mean, you’re technically correct¹ but that’s not exactly helpful because the inverse is also true: You can define any space as “crowded” if you widen it enough. That is to say it is perfectly plausible I am wrong and the space was crowded, but that argument doesn’t really prove or disprove it. > That was the point really, they entered a crowded space & re-defined it with their offering. Especially if you allow someone in the space to redefine it. At that point all bets are off and anyone can claim anything. ¹ The best kind of correct: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hou0lU8WMgo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hou0lU8WMgo
- rco8786 1y ago
  You are confusing technology for product. The product space they entered, UX design tooling, was very crowded. Sketch and InVision were the kings and there were a dozen other reasonable options to choose from (including ones in browser with real time collab and other interesting tech). Figma entered that market later and won on a combination of technology and product innovation aka execution. But they absolutely entered a crowded market.

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That was certainly not my intention. Nothing but respect for what they’ve built. Only pointing out that they entered a crowded space that already had “winners”

by rco8786 1y ago

That was certainly not my intention. Nothing but respect for what they’ve built. Only pointing out that they entered a crowded space that already had “winners” in it, and succeeded.

latexr 1y ago
Except it was not a crowded space. They did a bunch of stuff no one else was (or is) doing right from the start. Being entirely in the browser, real-time collaboration, vector networks…
- virgilp 1y ago
  You can define any space as "not crowded" if you narrow it down enough. That was the point really, they entered a crowded space & re-defined it with their offering.
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  - latexr 1y ago
    > You can define any space as "not crowded" if you narrow it down enough. I mean, you’re technically correct¹ but that’s not exactly helpful because the inverse is also true: You can define any space as “crowded” if you widen it enough. That is to say it is perfectly plausible I am wrong and the space was crowded, but that argument doesn’t really prove or disprove it. > That was the point really, they entered a crowded space & re-defined it with their offering. Especially if you allow someone in the space to redefine it. At that point all bets are off and anyone can claim anything. ¹ The best kind of correct: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hou0lU8WMgo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hou0lU8WMgo
- rco8786 1y ago
  You are confusing technology for product. The product space they entered, UX design tooling, was very crowded. Sketch and InVision were the kings and there were a dozen other reasonable options to choose from (including ones in browser with real time collab and other interesting tech). Figma entered that market later and won on a combination of technology and product innovation aka execution. But they absolutely entered a crowded market.