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OK, lay it on us.

by plemer 1y ago

OK, lay it on us.

cess11 1y ago
They're involved in genocide and enables near-global tyranny through their surveillance and manipulation. There are no excuses for working for or otherwise enabling them.
b112 1y ago
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- tombert 1y ago
  Well at least they're doing it For Great Justice then.
scott_w 1y ago
Just read Careless People.
deleted 1y ago
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TheRoque 1y ago
Come on... Is it still necessary to remind everyone how evil meta is ? The only reason they released "open source" models was to annoy the competition. They latest stunts: https://futurism.com/meta-sketchy-training-ai-private-photos https://futurism.com/meta-sketchy-training-ai-private-photos
- fragmede 1y ago
  don't call them open source when they're not. it's shared model.
  - TheRoque 1y ago
    It's just how they call them... Hence the quotes.
shakna 1y ago
I wouldn't call mass piracy [0], for their own competitive gain, to be a "good" act. Especially when it seems they know they were doing the wrong thing - and that they know that the copyright complaints have grounds. > The problem is that people don’t realize that if we license one single book, we won’t be able to lean into fair use strategy. [0] https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2025/03/libgen-meta-openai/682093/ https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2025/03/libge...
arresin 1y ago
It’s not unreasonable given the mountain of evidence of their past behaviour to just assume they are always the “bad guy”.
- bigyabai 1y ago
  I would normally agree, but we're instantially talking about the company that made Pytorch and played an instrumental role in proliferating usable offline LLMs. If you can make that algebra add up to "bad guy" then be my guest.
  - pickledoyster 1y ago
    It seems like you're claiming that Pytorch + an open-weight LLM > everything on this wiki page, especially the anchored section https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Facebook_content_management_controversies#Incitement_of_human_rights_abuses_in_Myanmar https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Facebook_content_management_co...
    - bigyabai 1y ago
      I am. I genuinely don't understand how Meta's LLM contributions have anything to do with Myanmar. It's like telling an iPhone user that iCloud isn't trustworthy because of the Foxconn suicide nets. It's basically the definition of a non-sequitur.

OK, lay it on us.

by plemer 1y ago

OK, lay it on us.

They're involved in genocide and enables near-global tyranny through their surveillance and manipulation. There are no excuses for working for or otherwise enabling them.

b112 1y ago

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tombert 1y ago
Well at least they're doing it For Great Justice then.

scott_w 1y ago

Just read Careless People.

deleted 1y ago

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TheRoque 1y ago

Come on... Is it still necessary to remind everyone how evil meta is ? The only reason they released "open source" models was to annoy the competition. They latest stunts: https://futurism.com/meta-sketchy-training-ai-private-photos https://futurism.com/meta-sketchy-training-ai-private-photos

fragmede 1y ago
don't call them open source when they're not. it's shared model.
- TheRoque 1y ago
  It's just how they call them... Hence the quotes.

shakna 1y ago

I wouldn't call mass piracy [0], for their own competitive gain, to be a "good" act. Especially when it seems they know they were doing the wrong thing - and that they know that the copyright complaints have grounds. > The problem is that people don’t realize that if we license one single book, we won’t be able to lean into fair use strategy. [0] https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2025/03/libgen-meta-openai/682093/ https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2025/03/libge...

arresin 1y ago

It’s not unreasonable given the mountain of evidence of their past behaviour to just assume they are always the “bad guy”.

bigyabai 1y ago
I would normally agree, but we're instantially talking about the company that made Pytorch and played an instrumental role in proliferating usable offline LLMs. If you can make that algebra add up to "bad guy" then be my guest.
- pickledoyster 1y ago
  It seems like you're claiming that Pytorch + an open-weight LLM > everything on this wiki page, especially the anchored section https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Facebook_content_management_controversies#Incitement_of_human_rights_abuses_in_Myanmar https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Facebook_content_management_co...
  - bigyabai 1y ago
    I am. I genuinely don't understand how Meta's LLM contributions have anything to do with Myanmar. It's like telling an iPhone user that iCloud isn't trustworthy because of the Foxconn suicide nets. It's basically the definition of a non-sequitur.