>particularly heard anyone regard civil engineers as "low quality workers" You still haven't. I never specified such a thing. Nice straw-man though. On a si

>particularly heard anyone regard civil engineers as "low quality workers" You still haven't. I never specified such a thing. Nice straw-man though. On a side note I wasn't even thinking about this but I actually personally know two civil engineers(or did). One is a gambling addict. The other moved to a different state because he researched that they had more prostitutes there. I promise you the public welfare is low on their list of concerns. I do care. However when the government is involved care is often manipulated(think of the children) into giving unquestioned authority against people's best interest because its for their own good after all....