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Classic that the first example is for parsing the goddamn recipe from the goddamn recipe site. Instant thumbs up from me haha, looks like a neat little project.
by bubblyworld 1y ago
Classic that the first example is for parsing the goddamn recipe from the goddamn recipe site. Instant thumbs up from me haha, looks like a neat little project.
- andrepd 1y agoWhich it apparently does by completely changing the recipe in random places including ingredients and amounts thereof. It is _indeed_ a very good microcosm of what LLMs are, just not in the way these comments think.
- throwawayoldie 1y agoThe output was then posted to the Internet for everyone to see, without the minimal amount of proofreading that would be necessary to catch that, which gives us a good microcosm of how LLMs are used. On a more pleasant topic the original recipe sounds delicious, I may give it a try when the weather cools off a little.
- simedw 1y agoIt was actually a bit worse than that the LLM never got the full recipe due to some truncation logic I had added. So it regurgitated the recipe from training, and apparently, it couldn't do both that and convert units at the same time with the lite model (it worked for just flash). I should have caught that, and there are probably other bugs too waiting to be found. That said, it's still a great recipe.
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- 0x696C6961 1y agoWhat is the point?
- plonq 1y agoI’m someone else but for me the point is a serious bug resulted _incorrect data_, making it impossible to trust the output.
- bubblyworld 1y agoAssuming you are responding in good faith - the author politely acknowledged the bug (despite the snark in the comment they responded to), explained what happened and fixed it. I'm not sure what more I could expect here? Bugs are inevitable, I think it's how they are handled that drives trust for me.
- andrepd 1y agoThe point is LLMs are fundamentally unreliable algorithms for generating plausible text, and as such entirely unsuitable for this task. "But the recipe is probably delicious anyway" is beside the point, when it completely corrupted the meaning of the original. Which is annoying when it's a recipe but potentially very damaging when it's something else. Techies seem to pretend this doesn't happen, and the general public who doesn't understand will trust the aforementioned techies. So what we see is these tools being used en masse and uncritically for purposes to which they are unsuited. I don't think this is good.
- bubblyworld 1y agoWhat do you mean? The recipes in the screenshot look more or less the same, the formatting has just changed in the Spiegel one (which is what was asked for, so no surprises there). Edit: just saw the author's comment, I think I'm looking at the fixed page
- IncreasePosts 1y agoThere are extensions that do that for you, in a deterministic way and not relying on LLMs. For example, Recipe Filter for chrome. It just shows a pop up over the page when it loads if it detects a recipe
- bubblyworld 1y agoThanks, I already use that plugin, actually, I just found the problem amusingly familiar. Recipe sites are the original AI slop =P
- lpribis 1y agoAnother great example of LLM hype train re-inventing something that already existed [1] (and was actually thought out) but making it worse and non-deterministic in the worst ways possible. https://schema.org/Recipe https://schema.org/Recipe
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- soap- 1y agoAnd that would be great, if anyone used it. LLMs are specifically good at a task like this because they can extract content from any webpage, regardless of it supports whatever standard that no one implements
- komali2 1y agoThat's a cool schema, but the LLM solution is necessary because recipe website makers will never use the schema because they want you to have to read through garbage, with some misguided belief that this helps their SEO or something. Or maybe they get more money if you scroll through more ads?
- bubblyworld 1y agoI'm genuinely a bit confused by the recipe blog business model. Like there's got to be one, right? People don't usually spew the same story about their grandma hundreds of times on a real blog. Just hitting keywords for search? Many of them don't even have ads so I feel like that can't be it. Maybe referrals?
- Revisional_Sin 1y agoSEO. Longer articles get ranked higher.