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> Electron literally bundles Chrome and NodeJs, resulting in apps that are 300mb+. The Marco macOS app is 3mb. ... but is there any difference wrt to runtime r

> Electron literally bundles Chrome and NodeJs, resulting in apps that are 300mb+. The Marco macOS app is 3mb. ... but is there any difference wrt to runtime ram usage? It's still javascript. In my experience as a user forced to use electron apps, the runtime is a fixed ram cost but then the application expands and expands and expands... > You may consider toning down the negativity in the future. Sorry, but I just want to read my damn email. I'd pay for that [1] since as you yourself said, Apple Mail sucks. I do not need any extra services and especially not a dependency on another server between my email client and my email server. Guess it's still Apple Mail or Thunderbird (Talanoa does not seem to mention working with standard email protocols). Or ssh in and use mutt :) [1] Clearly not as much as a SV latte per month.

isaachinman 1y ago
Yes, there is a massive difference in runtime RAM usage. > Sorry, but I just want to read my damn email The good news is that there are literally dozens of email client options. If cross-platform sync and push notifications don't matter to you, Apple Mail and Thunderbird are good options. Talanoa indeed operates via Google and Microsoft APIs, not IMAP/SMTP.
- nottorp 1y ago
  > Yes, there is a massive difference in runtime RAM usage. JS needs some "evangelists" to explain this to people like me :) > cross-platform sync Um, if you use 5 clients to connect to the same imap server, you have "cross-platform sync" already don't you? It does seem to work for me. > Apple Mail and Thunderbird are good options. At this rate I'll probably become a donator/contributor to Thunderbird in at most two years :)
- NoGravitas 1y ago
  > If cross-platform sync and push notifications don't matter to you, Apple Mail and Thunderbird are good options. Cross-platform sync and push notifications are literally part of IMAP.
  - isaachinman 1y ago
    > push notifications are literally part of IMAP You are conflating things. IMAP supports IDLE, NOTIFY, and _sometimes_ P-IMAP, but IMAP is never going to trigger a push notification on your iPhone/Android.

isaachinman 1y ago

Yes, there is a massive difference in runtime RAM usage. > Sorry, but I just want to read my damn email The good news is that there are literally dozens of email client options. If cross-platform sync and push notifications don't matter to you, Apple Mail and Thunderbird are good options. Talanoa indeed operates via Google and Microsoft APIs, not IMAP/SMTP.

nottorp 1y ago
> Yes, there is a massive difference in runtime RAM usage. JS needs some "evangelists" to explain this to people like me :) > cross-platform sync Um, if you use 5 clients to connect to the same imap server, you have "cross-platform sync" already don't you? It does seem to work for me. > Apple Mail and Thunderbird are good options. At this rate I'll probably become a donator/contributor to Thunderbird in at most two years :)
NoGravitas 1y ago
> If cross-platform sync and push notifications don't matter to you, Apple Mail and Thunderbird are good options. Cross-platform sync and push notifications are literally part of IMAP.
- isaachinman 1y ago
  > push notifications are literally part of IMAP You are conflating things. IMAP supports IDLE, NOTIFY, and _sometimes_ P-IMAP, but IMAP is never going to trigger a push notification on your iPhone/Android.