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In college, newcomers will start with the basics of high level languages and then spend the rest of the time learning prompting. Just like nowadays assembler i

In college, newcomers will start with the basics of high level languages and then spend the rest of the time learning prompting. Just like nowadays assembler is only a side note, C is only taught in specialized classes (OS, graphics) and most things are taught in high level languages.

bakugo 1y ago
How will they be able to review AI generated code if they don't understand anything beyond the basics?
- dagw 1y ago
  How will they be able to review AI generated code The same way most of us review our compiler generated code today (ie not at all). If it works it works, if doesn't we fix the higher level input and try again. I won't be surprised if in a few more generation the AI will skip the human readable code step and generate ASTs directly.
  - bakugo 1y ago
    > if doesn't we fix the higher level input and try again How can I visit this fantasy world of yours where LLMs are as reliable and deterministic as compilers and any mistakes can be blamed solely on the user?
    - dagw 1y ago
      How can I visit this fantasy world of yours... Wait 20 years.
      - bakugo 1y ago
        10 years, 20 years... It's really easy to make unsubstantiated claims about what will happen decades from now, knowing your claims will be long forgotten when that time finally comes around.
        dagw 1y ago
        Crawling up the abstraction ladder and 'forgetting' everything below has been the driving trend in programming since at least the 60s and probably before. We for example have a whole generation of programmers who have no idea what the difference between a stack and a heap is and know nothing about how memory is allocated. They just assume that creating arbitrarily complex objects and data structures always works and memory never runs out. And they have successful careers, earning good money, delivering useful software. I see no reason why this won't continue.

bakugo 1y ago

How will they be able to review AI generated code if they don't understand anything beyond the basics?

dagw 1y ago
How will they be able to review AI generated code The same way most of us review our compiler generated code today (ie not at all). If it works it works, if doesn't we fix the higher level input and try again. I won't be surprised if in a few more generation the AI will skip the human readable code step and generate ASTs directly.
- bakugo 1y ago
  > if doesn't we fix the higher level input and try again How can I visit this fantasy world of yours where LLMs are as reliable and deterministic as compilers and any mistakes can be blamed solely on the user?
  - dagw 1y ago
    How can I visit this fantasy world of yours... Wait 20 years.
    - bakugo 1y ago
      10 years, 20 years... It's really easy to make unsubstantiated claims about what will happen decades from now, knowing your claims will be long forgotten when that time finally comes around.
      - dagw 1y ago
        Crawling up the abstraction ladder and 'forgetting' everything below has been the driving trend in programming since at least the 60s and probably before. We for example have a whole generation of programmers who have no idea what the difference between a stack and a heap is and know nothing about how memory is allocated. They just assume that creating arbitrarily complex objects and data structures always works and memory never runs out. And they have successful careers, earning good money, delivering useful software. I see no reason why this won't continue.