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Your described option is not the broader reality. Most people use the hardware that is provided with the service by default. Last time I checked, there's not e

Your described option is not the broader reality. Most people use the hardware that is provided with the service by default. Last time I checked, there's not even an additional rental fee.

Mogzol 1y ago
Sure, but you still can use your own hardware if you choose to. And that's all that the original comment you replied to was saying. If you choose to use your own hardware, then Comcast won't have control over it and cannot do this wifi motion detection. Of course, most people won't do this, but that's besides the point.
- boston_clone 1y ago
  > they only have some level of control over DOCSIS modem they typically issue a modem / router combination unit, and they can control the router and its radios.
  - Mogzol 1y ago
    Yes, but you can replace that with your own unit they don't have control over.
    - boston_clone 1y ago
      …and most people don’t. it’s an additional expense, additional work, and frankly not worth the headache for like 80%+ of users. I used to work in this space, and have first-hand knowledge about the prevalence of third party modems with a sample set of over 100k people. What’s your experience?
      - Mogzol 1y ago
        Nobody is arguing against that. I fully agree that most people don't. The point was only that you can.
margalabargala 1y ago
Maybe not everywhere, sure, only in America. https://www.xfinity.com/support/articles/list-of-approved-cable-modems https://www.xfinity.com/support/articles/list-of-approved-ca... I can't believe I'm defending Comcast on the internet but here I am, I guess between them and you I'm siding with the entity currently being less of an ass to me?
- boston_clone 1y ago
  Idk what you’re even defending with that article, but that’s your cross to bear. Mimicking my speech pattern then trying to say I’m being the ass is not going to hold up, however. Elsewhere I posted that I used to work in this space and have first-hand knowledge that the majority of people do not use third party modems. That is a fact. Just because people can go out and purchase a new modem and then additional wifi gear, doesn’t mean that they do or even should to shield themselves from the potential privacy violations happening here.
  - margalabargala 1y ago
    I said you were being the ass because you called me a "shillbot". You edited your comment to delete that, so I'll also retract my calling you an ass. I agree with basically everything else you said.
    - boston_clone 1y ago
      appreciate you and sorry for hitting you with some crossfire that was intended for Comcast and Comcast only

Your described option is not the broader reality. Most people use the hardware that is provided with the service by default. Last time I checked, there's not even an additional rental fee.

Mogzol 1y ago

Sure, but you still can use your own hardware if you choose to. And that's all that the original comment you replied to was saying. If you choose to use your own hardware, then Comcast won't have control over it and cannot do this wifi motion detection. Of course, most people won't do this, but that's besides the point.

boston_clone 1y ago
> they only have some level of control over DOCSIS modem they typically issue a modem / router combination unit, and they can control the router and its radios.
- Mogzol 1y ago
  Yes, but you can replace that with your own unit they don't have control over.
  - boston_clone 1y ago
    …and most people don’t. it’s an additional expense, additional work, and frankly not worth the headache for like 80%+ of users. I used to work in this space, and have first-hand knowledge about the prevalence of third party modems with a sample set of over 100k people. What’s your experience?
    - Mogzol 1y ago
      Nobody is arguing against that. I fully agree that most people don't. The point was only that you can.

margalabargala 1y ago

Maybe not everywhere, sure, only in America. https://www.xfinity.com/support/articles/list-of-approved-cable-modems https://www.xfinity.com/support/articles/list-of-approved-ca... I can't believe I'm defending Comcast on the internet but here I am, I guess between them and you I'm siding with the entity currently being less of an ass to me?

boston_clone 1y ago
Idk what you’re even defending with that article, but that’s your cross to bear. Mimicking my speech pattern then trying to say I’m being the ass is not going to hold up, however. Elsewhere I posted that I used to work in this space and have first-hand knowledge that the majority of people do not use third party modems. That is a fact. Just because people can go out and purchase a new modem and then additional wifi gear, doesn’t mean that they do or even should to shield themselves from the potential privacy violations happening here.
- margalabargala 1y ago
  I said you were being the ass because you called me a "shillbot". You edited your comment to delete that, so I'll also retract my calling you an ass. I agree with basically everything else you said.
  - boston_clone 1y ago
    appreciate you and sorry for hitting you with some crossfire that was intended for Comcast and Comcast only